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Then I give you my answer: No one delivered any data, that MMR (measles, mumps and rubella) vaccines caused dead babies. Nor is there proof for authism. Rather there is great proof against it, since one study misinterpreted its results, so this was rectified.

https://www.idsociety.org/public-health/measles/know-the-facts/

The effects of getting ill of measles on the other hand is very well known. So I ask you. When you get the information: Option A could have very low side effects and no severe damage potential. With option B your child has 1/20 chance for pneumea, 1/1000 chance to have brains swelling that can cause deafness and intellectual disability, and a 3/1000 chance to die.

Which option you choose?

FiddleHodlHomestead 9mo ago

The IDSA is sponsored by pharmaceutical companies directly (below is just for one year) and indirectly because most medical boards and schools are deeply intertwined with pharma.

So I don't find them a reliable source for your claim.

I personally don't claim that the MMR vaccine is unsafe, and I've certinaly never claimed that it causes autism.

I just have no reason to think that it IS safe.

INDUSTRY SUPPORT:

The following is a list of grants over $5000 that IDSA received in 2020:

Pfizer, Inc General Support (IDWeek 2020) $25,000

Gilead Sciences General Support (IDWeek 2020) $130,000

Biofire Diagnostics, LLC General Support (IDWeek 2020) $50,000

Merck General Support (IDWeek 2020) $50,000

ViiV Healthcare General Support (IDWeek 2020) $71,500

Novartis Pharmaceuticals Group General Support (IDWeek 2020) $10,000

AstraZeneca General Support (IDWeek 2020) $100,000

Insmed General Support (IDWeek 2020) $30,000

Compass, Inc. General Support (IDWeek 2020) $18,000

Siemens Medical Solutions USA, Inc. General Support (IDWeek 2020) $5,000

Cephid General Support (IDWeek 2020) $10,000

Spero Therapeutics General Support (IDWeek 2020) $10,000

In addition, the Society received fees from industry to exhibit at IDWeek 2020 and from

commercial education companies for industry sponsored symposia, exhibitor presentation theaters

and exhibitor learning lounges held in conjunction with IDWeek 2020.

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freemymind 🇨🇭 9mo ago

Really cool to see how you investigate. I like your spirit. But in general I think money is spent for value. It can be spent too, to corrupt the goal of a institution. But in general this is not the primary reason.

And studies can not be falsified by where the money is coming from. A study has to be disqualified, by using false methods, false data or that the conclusion is not logic. You agree?

When you not think, that vaccines cause autism. And you do not think, that MMR vaccine is unsave.

Why you do think it is saver to not use the vaccine of children, instead of using it?

FiddleHodlHomestead 9mo ago

I think that money is spent for value. We would like to think that the value is good health outcomes, but the job of a corporation is to make sure that value is profit.

This doesn't mean that vaccine drs and researchers are working only for the money. Personally I would tend to trust their motives, but I don't trust that the motives of their CEOs or of the corporations as a whole align with mine.

I'm sorry - I'm not sure I understand your question about studies being falsified. That the funding doesn't affect the outcome? There are lots of ways to adjust or design studies based on the outcomes one wants. I saw one recently about SSRIs: the researchers did a first phase of a study in which some participants had very negative reactions. The second phase simply excluded those participants (on grounds that they justified somehow - I don't remember the details - they may have called the first phase a pre-trial?). The result was fewer side effects being reported.

I'm not claiming that it's necessarily safer to skip every vaccine for every child. I just think that given the powerful financial incentives behind them, parents should look into each shot very carefully before agreeing to it.