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No, no! That's quite alright! You don't need to agree with me. I'm sorry if I gave the wrong impression. I was just hoping to understand your position better. If you have a more specific issue then I would love to hear it.

You mentioned in another comment that my response was unreasonable. What in particular is unreasonable about my what I said? Would you actually be willing to pay a personal cost if you only had your life's value because of sacrifices made before you were born? Did you mean something different than I thought when you said that people do not have to earn their place as a part of the human family?

TheBitcoinBattery 7mo ago

People are the most productive when they're happy, healthy, feel loved and accepted, and have the time to find ways to improve things for everyone. That state of mind is suppressed when someone feels worthless, unloved, alone, and seeking validation from other people.

My post simply encouraged people to find their happiness within themselves and with those who don't judge them. To not feel bad if they haven't done enough to earn their place in the eyes of others. Everyone contributes in their own way eventually, they do not have to earn anything or prove anything to be happy before that happens.

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Scoundrel 7mo ago

Thank you for your response.

Oh there is definitely a correlation between happiness and productivity, but you have it exactly backwards. Though that's a good argument for someone to use if they want a bunch of support and validation but don't want to actually have to accomplish anything like the people they see already recieving support have done. I'll have to remember that argument.

I'd like to believe that people are happier when they aren't lied to and told that their life was completely free. I know that I for one am much happier when others depend on me and when they are giving back to the things they rely on and believe in. I don't see any reason this would be different for others.

I don't believe that unconditional love is any kind of love at all. Telling someone "you are enough" while they are rotting in bed is a very cruel thing to do. I know you claim that everyone contributes in their own way, but that doesn't mean they shouldn't still hold themselves to an objective standard.

TheBitcoinBattery 7mo ago

I don't believe I have it backwards or incorrect, while I believe you are also correct that happiness can be found through action and responsibility towards others as well.

Happiness and action go hand in hand. Someone who's happy is more likely to be productive, and someone who is productive is more likely to be happy.

If you want people to be more productive, help them to be happy and to learn to find happiness and contentment within themselves. If you want them to be happier encourage them to be more productive and so on. They reinforce each other, but it's up to each one of us what happiness/contentment/productivity means for our lives. People are always going to judge regardless of what you do, so just work on yourself and don't worry too much about those that judge and criticize.

Scoundrel 7mo ago

Oh yeah, the "actually everybody is right (:" argument. I should have known you'd go with aomething like that. That's fine though, I think I could stand to be more commital with my position than just saying "you're wrong."

Are when you talk about possible sources of action, are you sure you are talking about happiness? The truth is that action follows conviction and nothing else. A person can be happy because of their conviction, but any time a person acts it will always be because of their conviction, not their happiness.

I can give plenty of examples where being more sad would not change their choices, but where having less conviction would stop them from acting, no matter how happy they are.

Can you give a single example of someone who is acting because they are happy, and would choose not to act even if they would be just as convinced that they understand the scenario and their choice is the right decision?