Yes, that's the way to let them see there's something different they can follow.

And I think people are programmed to a certain amount to at least find it cool to disrespect authority as long as they feel safe.

One advantage we have is there are so many ways into it. Eg I am talking to an old friend who already gets the trans stuff, and also Epstein. It's then much easier to show him that if the media are lying to him and trying to control him about those issues they can't be trusted on any others.

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Right you always start with common ground and build from there. I think it’s easy to write everyone off as brainwashed or whatever, but I think only 10-20 percent are truly brainwashed, and most people are just responding to incentives which are changeable. Even better is if it dawns on them that the highest incentive is to sense-make for oneself.