I guess I see Western society as easier to destabilize than Western civilization. Economic systems, political systems, social trust, technological dependence are all things I would classify as societal. Democracy, rule of law, science, capitalism, Christianity are part of western civilization. All these are under attack and always have been. Perhaps it’s worse than ever - I doubt that but I guess I’m open to that idea. However, I don’t see the scenario where those ideals completely collapse. Maybe this is an argument of semantics? Maybe I’m just naive. But I’m hopeful and that has really never wavered in my lifetime despite the perpetual chaos in the world