The question still remains. How do you know that to be true?
Discussion
Direct experiencing before mind and sense perception make interpretations about it.
This is a very simple recognition.
How are you experiencing it without your mind and senses?
The mind and senses are what is being experienced, aren't they? Like in the example the mind and senses are the coloring that appears in the glass but when you take the orange juice away the clarity is still there.
Right now as you have a thought that thought is directly seen, isn't it?
