I've been depressed the past few months and identified part of the cause. Most of my friends and family have to work a lot more to keep up with the fiat system and their own poor financial choices. I no longer have to. Without school and so much work, I've had a lot more time to do whatever I want. I've felt guilty about it even though I intentionally chose this path. I didn't realize I felt so guilty until recently. It seems fucked up that I've been conditioned to feel guilty for making freedom focused choices. I also feel lonely because I can't relate to a lot of things my friends, family, and colleagues are experiencing. At first I tried helping some of them out of the cycles they stay stuck in, but that made things worse.

I feel like a dick for thinking it, but maybe I've outgrown some of these people and need new people in my life, and/or a new or harder goal. I don't know the answer, but it sucks.

Anyone else know what I'm talking about?

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You are going to be ok. Follow your path.

Yeah, that sounds like how it feels to become a homemaker or to retire.

I hate to think a homemaker would feel this way. That's incredibly sad. But I can certainly empathize. It isnt really an issue of logic. Like you can know you contribute in various ways and still feel otherwise. I started researching the issue on YT and found videos made by much older retirees, as you pointed out. Even that's a disconnect because I'm only 31 πŸ˜‚

Anyway, just something people have to figure out. I've tried hanging out with much older people, but they view me as a child (probably fair on average). Not that I don't value my youth, just puts me in a weird social spot.

I was a young homemaker, so most of my peers where still in college or out partying. And I suddenly didn't have to think about making money, anymore.

I just started volunteering, hanging out at church more, etc.

Most of my friends are older, but I've always been like that.

Same on the friends side. None old enough to be retired though. And I recently discovered that some of my much older friends are broke. It can be tough out here

Be like me, don’t have any friends 🀣 πŸ˜‚ 😿

Lol Maybe I'll give that a whirl. I actually spend about 80% of my time alone. It was unhealthy for me to be higher than that so I started making "contextual acquaintances." I have few actual friends by design. I can't realistically have more given how seriously I take the relationships. I'm sure it's just an early mid life crisis. Maybe my 40s will be easier.

This is why making a family is the ultimate goal. Because that core family is reliant on your decisions, and therefore brings you happiness, pride, and joy for your success rather than depression. Not the brother and sister or mother and father or cousins and uncles part of family, but the wife and children part.

I can definitely see the value in this perspective. My wife is dear to me.

Time to make a baby!

Can relate to the depression, although my reasons mostly differ (and some ring true).

No advice, just wishing you well and hope your mental state improves.

It's just something we go through as humans. I don't usually share these sorts of thoughts but you never know when someone else may be worse off and need to know they aren't alone. I'm not the first or last to go through it.

I appreciate the wishes.

I don't stop at knowing what you're talking about, I'm 54 and I've lived it my entire life. I am radically different from anyone I know, bit of an autist, developer, adventurer, mountain athlete, bitcoiner, OMAD carnivore, homesteader, etc. Very high drive, high-performance life, big dreams.

I have a philosophy: People are who they want to be

I have a policy: I'll tell you what I know, you do with it what you like

My feelings toward people:

If they want to change, they will. You don't have to force them or even encourage them. If they're not actively pursuing self-improvement and a better life, it means their courage and ambition are maxed out, so they're stuck at their current level.

They currently lack the capacity for further development. That can change at any time, but you can't change it for them. Only when they find it within themselves will they move forward once again.

It pains me to see family and acquaintances struggle with obesity, chronic illness, depression, and finances while I thrive at a high level in all areas.

I have shared my knowledge, numerous resources, and endless encouragement with anyone who will listen for decades. None of it has moved the needle even slightly. No one I know has followed my path or tried to replicate my processes. I leave them further behind by the day.

It's baffling and frustrating. Why wouldn't they follow my lead? I've proven the path, I've ironed out the details, the incredible results are the proof they need, and I'm endlessly supportive!

My theory is that they lack the capacity to drive themselves forward, at least for now. In their hearts and minds, further progress is overwhelming and terrifying. It's a bridge too far. They feel like the present circumstances are more than they can handle already. The thought of taking on more is out of the question.

God knows I've tried. People are exhausted from my encouragement, and I'm exhausted from watching them suffer. Now, I leave them be and focus on myself.

As you can see, I continue to share my knowledge, experiences, and encouragement, but I'm no longer emotionally invested in the outcomes of others. Whatever their reasons, they won't follow my path, and I can't carry them. I can only wish them the best.

If you want to live a high-performance life and preserve your sanity, you must accept that you will leave almost everyone behind, the distance growing further by the day as your gains accelerate you into the distance.

That is where I am at today. I'm elated with my life, and saddened for those I've left behind, but that was their choice, and I am powerless to change their minds.

People are who they want to be.

yeah, been feeling this and thinking a lot about it since and during covid.

I think where I've landed is that you have to temper your expectations from certain relationship, but be grateful for what is there.

and just continue to fill your own cup while you hopefully also expand with more meaningful relationships aswell