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You say you are not a member of any cult but still your bias is pretty noticeable.

Not to attack you but don't you have considered a couple of things.

1. Is hard for XMR to go to 0 if it is being adopted by grey and black markets as superior just for its privacy features, it is private by default, as with Bitcoin you must take an active and costly on time approach, given that even to make 3 mixes of a UTXO on a coinjoin you have to pay pool fees, and it costs time while your UTXO is chosen to go in CJ.

2. Bitcoin hasn't advanced shit given the constant drama with main devs and their agendas, privacy is a serious topic (IMO) for Bitcoin and it should be made a priority, but it seems there are other priorities.

3. If you have seen the process on XMR development, there are basically bounties, this means you vote by donating to initiatives that the community finds important in the first place, it is not a debate by a buch of dweebs that might be getting grants to push narratives on what is currently important.

a_priori 2y ago

I agree with all of that. I do think there is an argument for going painstakingly slow implementing new features on Bitcoin. I love and appreciate that Monero has taken more chances and evolved faster, and IMO that has paid off. A major flaw in Bitcoin though could set us back years. That being said, on a long enough timeline (decade plus, maybe?) I do think Bitcoin gets better privacy features and then what edge does XMR have? If not, I could see a future where they coexist forever. Maybe governments and public companies keep their wealth in Bitcoin, but private individuals and companies keep it in Monero. As things develop, it will become easier and easier to swap between the two depending on what is needed for a given situation.

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0xD43m0n 2y ago

Well, that's an interesting take, personally i use them both roght now, i CJ but at the same time if i have a spending bigger than the output of a UTXO let's say 0.01 BTC i send two of them to a consolidation wallet in XMR (obv in different moments and to different addresses), i make the expense and then move the remaining back to BTC.

This way i improve privacy, and get to make large enough expenses that aren't affected by the amount of the UTXO.