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Some thoughts on the current state of #zapvertising

I have attempted to reasonably articulate my thoughts.

https://telegra.ph/The-State-of-Zapvertising-06-10

100% agree. This is the second time Damus has lashed out at user sovereignty, this time it was (for me) less intrusive, but it should definitely be optional and disabled by default.

Since I am criticising gratuitously, I also don't think it's right that all new pubkeys are created and automatically follow the developer’s profiles (without asking it).

I think the line that separates user sovereignty should be sacred, and as usual, we allow it to be crossed without anyone (well just a few crazy old men) noticing.

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jb55 2y ago

Its a testflight experiment, none of this is final. I threw it together in like 2 hours.

jb55 2y ago

“Lashed out at user sovereignty “ is a bit dramatic. It is designed to encourage people to zap posts instead of having them hidden away. Of course you will be able to disable top zaps via a setting on the post. I’ve already mentioned this when I launched the experiment.

moe88 2y ago

i have new social application idea project with new concept need to share it with as software developer can i contact you

Quentin 2y ago

nostr:npub1xtscya34g58tk0z605fvr788k263gsu6cy9x0mhnm87echrgufzsevkk5s It was never my intention to get into a debate, English is not my native language and maybe I can't find the right words.

It all boils down to the same thing, I think we should be very careful with the changes we add, and never modify the user experience, no matter how well intentioned you are.

The Fishcake (nostr.build) 2y ago

Pardon me getting into the middle, but I can’t agree with “…and never modify the user experience, no matter how well intentioned you are.” By that definition nothing will ever change for better or worse.

Test Flight is for the purpose of people trying new and potentially harmful things. If someone dislikes it, they should go back to the standard release. If people are willing to experiment, then they should provide a neutral, data driven and constructive feedback.

Feel free to ignore my comments, I am just expressing my understanding of the situation! 🐶🐾🫡

HoloKat 2y ago

Yeah that’s what makes nostr awesome - lots of experiments. Some bad things may come out of that but we may not discover the awesome stuff if we don’t test wild ideas.

The Fishcake (nostr.build) 2y ago

Precisely! Expect the worst, get the best results in the end! 🐶🐾🫡

Quentin 2y ago

I will try to express it better. Never take any action on behalf of the user, to follow an account you have to publish a note on nostr. Has anyone asked this new user? I don't want to get into a debate, and even less with developers like Will, I was just expressing my opinion, by the way, I was answering to a great article written by nostr:npub1wtuh24gpuxjyvnmjwlvxzg8k0elhasagfmmgz0x8vp4ltcy8ples54e7js, this article is what is important, not my comment.

nobody 2y ago

I noted that this option was already in progress in the article, as well as noting that I myself switched back to the release version for the day. Damus is simply the best way to experience Nostr right now imo.

I agree test flight is exactly where to do this.

I hope the article articulated ideas, and did not feel like an attack. It was certainly not intended as one. Only as thoughts and potential ideas moving forward.

ricko 2y ago

👊🏼🤙