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I was directed to this tweet, and specifically this photo, yesterday. I replied that it’s easy for many of us #Bitcoin-ers to forget this is even a thing. Clearly, it is—to the point they can pack a room full of developers.

There are successful, nationwide BitDevs at places like #[1] and Bitcoin Commons. This is great. But I’ve never seen a room this full of Bitcoin builders.

Genuine question: why, and assuming we want it, what’s missing?

https://twitter.com/wuehler/status/1647096620733943808

Carman 2y ago

Keep in mind, eth was marketed as any Javascript dev can be a bloc dev. It is meant to be super easy to get going whereas bitcoin has a much steeper learning curve. Bitcoin also isn't meant to do everything under the sun (for good reason) and that excludes some people who want to do X and don't care where they do it.

I think bitcoin and lightning are definitely getting closer tho. The guys at #[3] have their own course that makes it really easy to get started and we're getting more devs all the time. Tools like LN Bits have made it a lot easier and new tools like it are coming out all the time ( #[4] 😉). Hopefully one day we will be there but it is definitely an uphill battle.

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Shawn 2y ago

Great points, Ben. Appreciate your perspective.

#[6], where can we find out more about course, sir?

Car 2y ago

Yes we have it on Emeralize app, Oshi and Udemy. https://www.udemy.com/course/pleblabaustin/

Ben is exactly right though. A lot of us including #[7] at Base58 are working hard to onboard the next 10,000 devs.

We had over 360 users take the PlebDev course since December and more signing up everyday.

We had two women come into pleblab today to learn about vercel and start their coding journey. I personally believe we will get there. But we have to continuing working hard at it. First step is these bitcoin hubs we all have created across the world these are so important for developer adoption.

Shawn 2y ago

I don’t know how I’ve missed this, Car. Fantastic. Thanks.

How have you found Vercel? Is it your go-to for new devs?

Car 2y ago

Afaict React seems to be the easiest onboarding to lightning development. We have a lesson on it in our course. I am not to versed in Vercel...big companies are using it these days based on there client list.

I know the plebdev course is working because I am constantly getting hit up for devs from companies with a job list to fill. They seem to be getting hired.

Car 2y ago

This was a typical Saturday at the lab.

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Car 2y ago

this was last week for our chatgpt hack workshop

Shawn 2y ago

Killing it. 🙌🏼

buck 2y ago

I’m a huge fan of vercel. Great for quick deployments of apps. Easy learning curve for serverless, and great for quick projects that you want/need to deploy quickly (I haven’t used it at scale but my understanding is it does that well too).

A couple apps I’ve built on vercel:

https://txfees.watch

https://lsat-playground-bucko.vercel.app

buck 2y ago

Maybe a good parallel is that a JavaScript conference is probably going to be more full than a Linux one. It probably shouldn’t even be a goal for bitcoin to aim to be like the former. Events like btc++ and TABConf imo are generally the right size to also maintain quality for this reason. Scaling Bitcoin had this vibe too. Much smaller but every talk just had my head hurting from the density of info.

Shawn 2y ago

Thanks, Buck. Good points. Would you say the same applies to new devs, say who might otherwise drift toward eth, solana, etc? Could we ever have too many?

buck 2y ago

I wouldn’t say you can have too many but you don’t want to aim for the lowest common denominator either. That said, I think there are things we can do to attract quality devs/engineers too.

Jeremy Rubin had a good post on this a couple years ago: https://rubin.io/bitcoin/2021/12/14/advent-17/

Shawn 2y ago

Queued up to read. Thanks again.