Why? Normies are horrible and make most things worse.
There are a ton of people here with very normie ideals that already drive the value of nostr down below the average fedi experience.
Why would we want this to be more like any normie space?
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Good points... I guess that's a totally different mindset to have. I think the space is great and think what makes it great is the fact that there exists some barriers to entry to access.
I think what Ben was asking is how do we get mass adoption here on Nostr? For mass adoption, obviously we would need normies (they are a part of the "masses").
Personally, I am not a content creator (yet), but if I needed to monetize? Then I would want all the normies you could find =)
I think growth is normal and good and has a lot of benefits. Don't get me wrong. However. I think that there's a downside to having a lot of new people with different values all of a sudden. I think rather than THE masses we should be attempting to preach to the choir.
Tell people we suspect are somewhat unsatisfied with normal platforms or who have fears of looming censorship to be using nostr as a backup or whatever.
I'm definitely not against growth so I don't want to give that impression. I just think there are more likeminded people out there that ultimately would be a good or maybe even better group that might be even more willing to buy what you're selling over the average normie.
I don't want you to think I'm just trying to shit on your idea. That's not my point haha
Cuz its made for everyone...
It isn't though. People constantly talk about how "it's too hard for grandma" to get on here or involved with any btc shit.
It's such a lie to say that it's made for everyone.
It is
It doesn't make it more true if you say it more.
Its a decentralized protocol. Open for anyone to use it. If it wasnt the restriction would be made for bitcoin community only. You cant tell me on decentralized protocol what to do or where to lean... it doesnt make sense.
Close it for your bitcoiners only and enjoy the show. Then you can tell me that it was designed for bitcoin only...
My argument isn't that it's for "bitcoiners only"
My argument is that it's not for everyone. In the same way broccoli isn't for everyone. Or seafood isn't for everyone. Or painting isn't for everyone.
There are already built in barriers for entry which will inherently eliminate potential users like children or the elderly.
Thats true. But you are also offensive over the people that are here now. Which then means you just have a problem with who ever doesnt use it in bitcoin way. As you said... it already selected those who can use it by them not being able to access the protocol... so what do you have a problem with normies now that are using this protocol for their own stuff after already passing that elimination barrier? And why do you say that they are dropping the value? Thats not true... that is solely your opinion that I dont agree with ... they cant drop the value because there is no chart to follow. You do what you want... who likes it will follow who doesnt will not.
I'm not even that gung-ho about bitcoin honestly. At best it's just different money. At worst it's a complete scam. Not a big deal really.
The issues I have with some of the people here aren't about Bitcoin.
I care about culture over just about everything else. The idea of more normies increases pretty undesirable culture in my mind. And decreases uniqueness to this platform over any other platform.
At a certain point it just becomes Facebook with bitcoin and more annoying steps to get here. I don't think anyone really wants a carbon copy of Facebook culturally speaking.
Or Reddit. Or Twitter or any other place.
Right now as I see it this is an alternative to the fedi. Although the fedi might actually be better for culture purposes.
I'm trying to address your questions and I think I have the best I can but if I missed anything let me know.
Also I'm perfectly fine disagreeing. I'm not trying to convince you of anything. Just letting you know my position.