the slaves were a conscious weapon implanted by the enemy via exploitation of the greed instinct of HUMAN NATURE to eventually and intentionally lead to the situation mcmerica finds herself in today...
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Did I say human nature was one of universal respect?
nah didnt mean to imply you did...
it does seem that you do have a lighter assessment of human nature than I though... which is why I capped that...
and its also why i believe that libertarianism cant work...
i mean speaking of "culture" needed for something like this to work, seems libertarianism would just destroy that anyway since people who push it seem to be willing to allow all sorts of social deviance or variations on a theme which then pollutes or dilutes the culture, almost ensuring that the high-mindedness necessary for such a system would simply degenerate making it imposssible...
Thank you. Well, I recognize the reality that human nature is broad. It takes many forms. It is not that I am more optimistic in the sense of thinking it is fundamentally really good, no. I am optimistic in the sense of recognizing that it CAN be better, FAR better, and that it can be way, way, way worse. I am realistic in the sense that I don't assume away possibilities, nor do I assume away things I have seen in myself and other people, the compassion, the rationality, the long-term thinking, the deduction, the care. And with economics I can see that even when people are irrational or don't care, they are handled and limited by the market. I am aware of reality. I am aware of my limitations, so I don't assume to be right unless I am damn sure.
Frankly your pessimism and rhetorical support of non-libertarian means comes across as irrationality to me. I do not hope. I reason. And I've reasoned this stuff through to my satisfaction that it is attainable, and that the most effective means of effecting it are to live it, and create a culture around me that embraces the core principles of respect for consent, rationality, uncertainty, value for one's own life, and the understanding of the self-evident truth that there is no such thing as authority. Any culture holding onto those truths will succeed. It is why Sikhs and Jews tend to do so well at accruing wealth and value self-reliance.
That being said, you have some good points and I like to debate. Doing so helps to point out where I'm making a mistake, either in logic or at being convincing haha! And I like to debate in general. So thank you!
And also, yeah, some libertarians are idiots who just want to do drugs, or who think that a bunch of people doing drugs won't be a detriment to society. That is a very large minority of libertarians. A lot of us, on the contrary, recognize that it should be perfectly legal but that a rational person would stay away from it and that stores would certainly not sell them to kids, or that it should be legal but culturally discouraged, or that it should be illegal by way of a covenant community's rules but not by a government. Same for every other questionable thing.
If you think a government is the only thing that stands in the way of a majority of young men deciding to snort cocaine while a hooker who probably has STDs rides his dick to the sound of death metal, in the first class section on a rickety yet somehow expensive private airplane that was purchased just for this occasion on an installment plan denominated in a scammy Dogecoin competitor cryptocurrency, then you might want to rethink how much power the government really has. It's not what holds society together. A culture of self-reliance and rationality is self-sustaining. And it also tends towards libertarian economic systems.
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