Not me this year … but I like the idea of a NostrMan camp next year! šŸ‘€

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Oh!!! I like that idea as well! nostr:nprofile1qqsr7acdvhf6we9fch94qwhpy0nza36e3tgrtkpku25ppuu80f69kfqppemhxue69uhkummn9ekx7mp0qyt8wumn8ghj7mn0wd68yetvd96x2uewdaexwtcw9pzlq you in?

That sounds like a fun idea 😁

Have you been burning before?

I have never been.

Then it’s more than ideal! It’s an opportunity šŸ‘Øā€šŸš€

How about decomodifcation principle? Calling it NostrMan. Feels kind a sneaky to obvious :))) and anyways i feel thats needed for BM community. So feel internal struggle there.

Just sharing.

What are your thoughts on that?

Decomodifcation is a red herring. Zapping culture and Value for Value exchanges follow the same principle. The devil is in the details … the philosophy behind the exchange, not the medium of exchange itself.

Nostr is what makes this difference tangible. It’s how freedom culture gets permeated by freedom tech. Freedom culture is the glue that binds.

There’s a magic sauce here somewhere … where a Nostr onboarding camp could thrive at Burning Man.

I love diving in with you to explore. I have asked GPT to unpack what you wrote. And here how it unpacks:

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1. ā€œDecommodification is a red herringā€

• In Burning Man and other countercultures, decommodification means ā€œno buying/selling, no brands, no ads.ā€

• But the text says this is a distraction (ā€œred herringā€). Why? Because value exchange never disappears—people still give, share, zap, trade, gift. The important part isn’t whether it’s ā€œcommodifiedā€ or not—it’s how and why people exchange.

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2. ā€œZapping culture and Value for Value exchanges follow the same principleā€

• Zapping (Nostr) → sending sats (Bitcoin) as a tiny, instant thank-you for a post, idea, or act.

• Value for Value (V4V) → popularized by podcasting: give back in proportion to the value you received, directly, without middlemen.

• Both are peer-to-peer gratitude systems rather than transactional markets. They honor subjective value rather than fixed prices.

So: decommodification isn’t the essence; intentional reciprocity is.

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3. ā€œThe devil is in the details … the philosophy behind the exchange, not the medium of exchange itselfā€

• The currency (money, sats, gifts, services) is secondary.

• What really matters is the philosophy: Are we exchanging to dominate/monetize, or to nourish/support/connect?

• Example: handing someone a $20 bill at Burning Man feels wrong. But zapping them 21 sats as a ā€œthank youā€ for a fire dance feels like a cultural alignment.

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4. ā€œNostr is what makes this difference tangibleā€

• Nostr (protocol for censorship-resistant communication + zaps) bridges philosophy and tech.

• It turns the abstract idea (ā€œvalue exchange without marketsā€) into a lived reality.

• Freedom culture (gifting, openness, sovereignty) becomes codified in freedom tech (Nostr, Bitcoin, zaps).

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5. ā€œFreedom culture is the glue that bindsā€

• Tech alone isn’t enough.

• What binds people together is the shared cultural philosophy: sovereignty, openness, creativity, respect, gift economy.

• Without this ā€œglue,ā€ tech just becomes another tool for commodification.

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6. ā€œThere’s a magic sauce here somewhere … where a Nostr onboarding camp could thrive at Burning Man.ā€

• Burning Man already runs on gift economy + culture-first exchanges.

• A Nostr camp would fit perfectly because:

• It embodies gifting + V4V principles.

• It offers a tool (zaps, decentralized identity) that matches Burning Man’s ethos.

• It can onboard people not by lecturing about crypto, but by living the culture → gifting sats, zapping art, connecting freely.

So the ā€œmagic sauceā€ = Freedom Tech + Freedom Culture + Embodied Experience.

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šŸ”„ In short:

The text is saying: It’s not about removing commodities—it’s about embedding philosophy of freedom into exchange. Nostr makes this real. Burning Man is the perfect crucible to show it, through an experiential camp where people can feel Value-for-Value in action.

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The summary nailed it. But the breakdown of #5 missed an important point.

What I mean by ā€œFreedom culture is the glue that binds.ā€ is that both Burning Man and Nostr are reservoirs for freedom culture. This is what they both uniquely have in common. Any discussion about the two that is focused on freedom culture (its importance and the many ways to embody it) is sure to be fruitful and unifying.

Been struggling with this I feel that cultures are so aligned and so complimenting each other. Felt stuck how to approach that.

Aligning principles

šŸ”Ÿ Principles Ɨ Nostr Alignment

1. Radical Inclusion

Everyone is invited.

• Nostr has no gatekeepers → anyone can join, no permission needed.

• Aligns with inclusion: open protocol, not closed platform.

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2. Gifting

The heart of Burning Man: unconditional giving.

• Zaps are a modern gift → sats as a digital flower, no expectation of return.

• Content on Nostr is given freely; zaps are gratitude, not obligation.

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3. Decommodification

Burning Man removes ads, brands, transactions.

• Zaps aren’t ads or payments → they’re peer-to-peer appreciation.

• Nostr resists commodification: no algorithms, no corporate monetization.

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4. Radical Self-Reliance

Encourage people to rely on their own inner resources.

• Nostr = you own your keys, your identity, your data.

• Self-reliance in the digital realm.

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5. Radical Self-Expression

Unique gifts of the individual.

• Nostr lets you publish without censorship or filters.

• Your art, your words, your identity—fully yours.

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6. Communal Effort

We achieve together what we cannot alone.

• Nostr relays = collective scaffolding.

• Value-for-Value culture creates invisible threads of support across the community.

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7. Civic Responsibility

Respect laws, care for community, take responsibility.

• Zaps = personal accountability in value exchange.

• Onboarding into Nostr = digital responsibility (you own your identity).

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8. Leaving No Trace

Leave places better than you found them.

• Nostr posts don’t rely on extractive servers or centralized corporate waste.

• Bitcoin zaps ride on energy but align with principles of proof, transparency, and can tie into sustainable energy use.

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9. Participation

No spectators. Everyone is part of the show.

• Nostr: you are the network—every zap, every post, every relay is participation.

• Value-for-Value demands engagement: if you value it, you show it.

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10. Immediacy

Be present. Direct experience is the most important.

• Zapping is instant gratitude, immediate acknowledgment.

• Nostr interactions feel like raw, unmediated presence—no ads, no ā€œlater.ā€

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šŸŒ¶ļø The Magic Sauce

When you look at them together:

• Nostr = Radical Self-Reliance + Radical Self-Expression (digital layer)

• Zaps/V4V = Gifting + Civic Responsibility (value layer)

• Burning Man = the embodied stage where this culture gets lived in dust + fire

Together → freedom tech meets freedom culture.

Did your bot write this for you? Lol. šŸ’œ

It’s a good start. Definitely a nut we can crack.

Just used gpt for myself to learn deeper and shared it here :)

By the way before next BM i am going to Amber Burn in Lithuania and Bordeland in sweeden. It could be great opportunities to explore it on the way to bm.

NostrLab camp? Experiment space

Would be great to stream camp 24/7 for nostr plebs who are not present :)