If you can't see LN payments, it does not mean they don't happen. Retail MoE adoption is shit, I agree, except maybe in some poorest countries. But same can be said about Monero, besides the drugs of course. Because Monero was specifically designed to protect the funds' receiver. LN is very good for sender's privacy, so a natural choice for VPN, VPS, eSIM, etc providers. The rest of the world is stuck in compliant tax accounting and convenient VISA tap-to-pay.
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https://xmrbazaar.com/ not just darknet markets. btc has nothing comparable
Thanks for the link. Now compare XMR map for Europe with BTC:
the issue is the tax accounting. With bitcoin it's an insufferable situation and maxi's beg daddy gobberment to help. monero isn't asking permission it's using code to protect the user.
Yes. The definition of black market.
Circular economy you mesn
Black market was a name invented by govs to sare the sheeps
I was replying to Kyle who said "not just darknet markets". Circular economy means some isolated community. Not how the world is generally. A retailer in almost every country must follow the rules or go in the hiding.
if we full dystopia the world will be small isolated circular economies
black markets are the only ones left functioning when government reaches it's final form.
not paying tax doesn't make it a black market. by that logic every contractor taking cash is a drug dealer equivalent lol
LN blinded paths will protect the receiver soon
ln is also insufferable to use without custodians. no kyc custodians will hunted down as the centralized money transmitters that they are
What? It is trivial to run a lightning node. Just swap local balance into BTC or LBTC instead of closing channels and taking those UTXOs to a CEX.
why would you say this. it's a complete lie. https://www.truthcoin.info/blog/ln-blackpill/
What is this collection of links? What is a lie?
the ease of use for a sovereign LN node
The only way to learn something is to do it yourself. Truth fucking coin info lol. You won't get rich as a routing node, but to receive LN bitcoin you just need to buy one inbound channel.
who's talking about getting rich? where talking about making it easy for people to be free. XMR is just easier. I don't need an online server running to receive payments I don't have to set anything up at all really.
XMR is not easier. My pi4 could not run monerod, not enough compute. But it can run bitcoind, lnd and tor all together easily. Trusting others to run a node for you is not sovereignty.
where talking about normie average joe construction worker here and your bring up the capabilities of a pi4? not relevant. relying on a node is far more sovereign than relying on a custodian
We were talking about merchant acceptance with sovereignty. Average construction worker is paid clean salary and can use Strike.
are they? why are all the immigrants sending cash to Mexico at the Mexican market in the USA?
Those should probably send USDT from Trust wallet, bought for cash p2p face to face. At least this if what I see immigrants doing in Europe via Telegram channels.
you're using a custodial node on your nostr profile if it was so easy why not have your own?
I run my own, just don't publicly advertise it. https://primal.net/e/nevent1qqsvq22kjyy0c8m98j2n8mm85qf9ejafamljkwktp2ydjvnvkhqm4wsa3dga0
Same for the world:
