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All I hear is Armando Garcia wasn't a citizen. Non-citizens don't get due process.

"Yes officer! FreedomTech is an illegal immigrant! Kidnap and deport him please."

With due process:

Judge: "Let's see the evidence, listen to the defendants counter arguments, and render sentence if found guilty. Just to be sure the accusation is true."

Without due process:

Officer: "Thanks for the tip! We don't want any people who came into this country illegally!!!"

Black bag over your head, straight to prison camp in El Salvador. No counter argument, no chance to defend against false accusations, no sentence with an end date.

You are praising the elimination of ALL OUR RIGHTS. The rights are active simply being on the LAND. Anyone on US soil has the right to due process! ANYONE. If they remove that right for "illegals" than EVERYONE can be accused and disappeared without trial.

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FreedomTech 8mo ago 💬 3

It's not that hard. They give you ID for this. I've travelled between and lived between another country my whole life.

If you have a birth certificate or passport you're good to go. If you don't you're deported, no courts involved. It's been this way all along, in both the USA be Mexico.

TheBitcoinBattery 8mo ago 💬 1

Ah yes, an ID solves everything in your mind.

Your username couldn't be more ironic considering you support living in a world where police can disappear anyone without judicial review. Good luck getting them to respect your papers if it's up to the officer and they just don't like you.

FreedomTech 8mo ago

I support national sovereignty. People do not have a right to invade an country and claim rights there.

Anyone promoting that is guilty of treason... cough cough Obama, Harris, Myorkas, and the NGOs involved.

TheBitcoinBattery 8mo ago

You support an authoritarian hellscape.

The fiat system has enslaved the world, Americans are the least suffering but we still suffer. The fiat system and authoritarianism is the enemy of freedom, not the desperate people trying to escape the impoverished countries that are enslaved to the first world.

"Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, The wretched refuse of your teeming shore." Is what America used to believe, when we had sound money we welcomed everyone.

I, as an American, would welcome all people who seek a better life and freedom. If they commit no crimes then they should be welcomed openly to help grow this society, immigration is a benefit to societies. It's only after destroying our money, and our ability to make a living along with it, that our attention is wrongly being diverted to the immigrants who came in desperation and have committed no crime other than existing here without permission.

789e4172... 8mo ago 💬 3

How many people carry a passport or birth certificate daily to go to work, go for grocery, pickup kids from school, visiting family,...?

So from now on having a valid passport and birth certificate is mandatory to avoid a one way ticket to a foreign jail for life?

789e4172... 8mo ago 💬 1

And married women also have to have their marriage certificate with their birth certicate to prove the name change.

789e4172... 8mo ago

Foreigners legally in the US don't have a US birth certificate or passport.

FreedomTech 8mo ago

They stamp the passport from their home country.

Have you never travelled?

Also green cards...

FreedomTech 8mo ago 💬 2

No. Don't be dramatic. In this case they give you a chance to produce it. But they will probably detain you until you produce proof.

Speaking from experience, on both sides if the border.

789e4172... 8mo ago

Haha! ICE give you a change. Good one.

789e4172... 8mo ago

Ice director wants to run deportations like ‘Amazon Prime for human beings’

Todd Lyons said he wanted US immigration agency to be ‘like a business’ in its deportation process

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/apr/09/ice-todd-lyons-deporation-amazon

The head of Immigration and Customs Enforcement said he would like the agency to implement a system of trucks that rounds up immigrants for deportation in a system similar to how Amazon delivers packages around the US.

“We need to get better at treating this like a business,” the acting Ice director, Todd Lyons, said. He said that he wanted to see a deportation process “like [Amazon] Prime, but with human beings”.

789e4172... 8mo ago

One day shipping to foreign jail.

FreedomTech 8mo ago

You don't have to sell ICE to me. I'm already a supporter of mass deportation of all the illegals that are being pushed into white countries by the UN. (In the name of the retarded Marxist decolonization critical theory)

22ec4e77... 8mo ago 💬 1

Ridiculous argument. The papers are the proof.

TheBitcoinBattery 8mo ago 💬 2

When exactly are you supposed to PRESENT THOSE PAPERS??? On the spot or bye bye? Ridiculous.

22ec4e77... 8mo ago

what prevents you from presenting them on the spot?

TheBitcoinBattery 8mo ago 💬 1

Do you really want to live in a world of fear? Because that's what that path results in. Checkpoints, silencing opposition, no checks and balances on power.

Don't like someone? Just disappear them even if they have papers. Who's going to stop you? Who would speak up when they also could be disappeared just for protesting?

That's not America, that's not freedom, that's not prosperity.

22ec4e77... 8mo ago

Just bring your papers with you. It's not that hard. I've lived in foreign countries most of my life. I always check that I have them with me, every time I leave. Once I left everything behind in a hotel 4 hour drive away and noticed in evening at the hotel at checkin. I went to the police and reported that I had lost it, they registered it and wrote a statement that it was registered, and first thing I did was go back to retrieve the documents that luckily was there. Anxious, because I realized that was my bad and if worse happened that was my responsibility.

Your argument only has any real effect if you imagine the state appartus salivates at the prospect of deporting as many people as possible. And since it is like that, all sorts of sophistry is needed that makes law enforcement much more difficult if not impossible.

I don't leave in a world of fear. I take responsibility.

FreedomTech 8mo ago

Yes.. on the spot is exactly how it works.