Seeing a good amount of cope about how plebs are "happy" to lose money running nodes to "help" the lightning network
Pls stop coping 🐸
1) you shouldn't be happy to lose sats
2) your little umbrel on Tor with tiny channels is making the network worse
Discussion
that's why i'm running an alby hub rented from alby... darthcoin has many good guides on it and has said many things and one of them is "your shitty pi nodes are making lightning worse, stahp"
But won't this mean losing 10,500 / 21,000 sats every month just to "rent" someone's hardware to begin with? I don't think most folks, knowledgeable about Lightning or not, will earn enough sats to cover cloud costs, rebalancing fees, channel closing fees, etc. So yeah, to me it's still mainly voluntary work that may or may not become self-sustaining. (Nothing against Alby, by the way - it's great to hear that people are willing to pay for their products and help popularise things like NWC).
was about to do the same with remaining sats but maybe utxo's note makes me instead double down on build back the little pi dolmen 🤣 🐸
well, i think a UPS and a mini pc and your in/outbound private channels at home is a great idea
i'd be doing it (even have the bitcoin node ready for it) but it's too much to think about for me at the moment while i try to stack more than spend
🤔 I got to reach the `zaps -> ((big-hub ->) nodes-network) -> freezer` stack-through-lightning workflow... private channels should not be clogging the probing works, no?. Probably many of those much small channels should be private instead of public subject of path probing... a miss of UI | UX as any other 🐸
yeah, exactly, and how can nodes know they are shit small channels?
this fact is not advertised!
i hope that the light dawns on this issue for lightning node devs in the near future
then so as well for node runners to no miss the why and how of the using of nodes (experience). as to batch open many small channels expecting farming routing fees for all of them indeed is doing troll-science. however a handful of small well planned channels; then that could talk about a nice tidy network overall
Finally, someone not delusion posting on here.
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If it moves sats in someone’s small transaction it’s not making the network worse.
If it fails and slows the network down then the network has issues, because it should be permissionless.
You shouldn’t tell people what should make them happy.
I agree it’s not sustainable to rely on charity long term, however. It’s a free market, so it will find a fee that sustains it.
It doesn't cost virtually anyhing to run an umbrella node. So who cares?
I'm running a few nodes, which custody my funds anyways, and I have dozens of channels for myself and others if they want, to use.
One is my home server that is already on,another a pi 4, another on my office workstation.
Total cost per month is like $2. Or about 3,000 sats. Big deal? Nah
Having more connection points and channels absolutely helps the network.
I'd rather have a channel than a custodian. I'm not routing anything for anyone, I'm just taking custody.
I wouldn't transact in Bitcoin otherwise and when fees were high I wouldn't have been able to stack sats, between fees to receive and fees to consolidate utxos.
So yeah, leave me alone.
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🐸 happily coping