For the record, I have full respect for everyone serving in their military and for conscientious objectors.
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But I'll admit that I'm partial to soldiers (and rebels) because I greatly admire physical bravery, especially for a cause.
Also, I'm physically timid and like to feel safe.
The only good cause I can think of for being in the military is to defend your nation from legitimate threats or to overthrow a tyrannical government. I respect the bravery, but I feel people are usually mislead for the reasons to choose to serve.
We tend to judge a cause as good or bad, once we know how it ended, and the victors write the history.
That is why I focus more on a man's individual courage and fortitude. I am looking at character traits, not politics. His behavior should be congruent.
I just want him to have strong protective instincts so that he won't run away, if I'm attacked.
What that translates to, in the political realm, in each individual case, is more complicated.
I can't think of a single instance in the past century where nations were called to war by their governments for a reason that didn't involve the state either enriching themselves or trying to destabilise a region for the benefit of wealthy interests, to the detriment of the people in those regions.
Soldiers will often follow orders rather than thier minds.
Obedience, meekness and dutifulness are also be virtues.
The world is a complex place.
For the record, I have full respect for everyone assessing the situation carefully and decide not ending up as cannon fodder for a lost cause.
I respect that.
I also had relatives getting called up to defend the Heimatfront at the end of the War, when it was obviously futile. They went willingly, as a matter of honor. And they died within a few days.
I also respect that.
I know people don't like to hear that, but it's something I had to think about at a young age because of the dates on the family gravestones.
I heard and read about that. I could never understand it. My father lived as a child through WW2. He used to say, the fascist were bad, the nazis were bad and the liberators were bad too. Only fight for your family but not for other people's ideas. Some of this "wisdom" must have ended up in me.
I don't try to understand it. I assume men have their own logic, when making decisions.
I am a woman and don't have as much of an expectation of courage over me. I cling irrationally to my modesty and my chastity, instead.
I suppose it looks just as crazy, to others, but they don't have to look at my face in the mirror.
So, I can't understand, but I can sympathize.
As a man I can only say, assuming we use logic when making decisions is a bit of a stretch. 😊 Speaking only for myself of course.
Well, we all have our reasons for doing this or that, even if we haven't consciously made the choice.
I have deep-seated reasons for my behavior in those topics and I don't know if I could articulate them as logical argument, but I do know that they have something to do with being female. Other women feel differently about the same topics, so there's lots more at work, but I think that's a prerequisite.
I assume their reasons had something to do with being male.
I think you spoke for me too...
You respected the fact that they fought and died for the nazi regime?
And by the way, when ordinary people, not soldiers, fought the nazi paratroopers in Crete, then the nazis killed innocent civilians for revenge and they tried to excuse that war crime because civilians have not a right to fight according to a diplomatic agreement yhat i forget it's name right now. They still say those shit even today, but they always forget to say that if this is the case , then the soviets had every right to wipe out the entire grtman nation according to their logic and what happened at yhe heimatfront