> Nostr is great at being a open protocol. But that also makes it highly suspectable to attacks, and spam. What I really want is decentralized identities like nostr but also the convenience of sites like reddit or lemmy.

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> Lemmy’s main problem is that when one instance defederates from another instance all users are cut off from all users. If one user still wants to see content from OffensiveInstance A, but hes signed up in Instance B and B defederates from A he can’t.

just to play devils advocate a bit.. Do you think someone could come at the problem from the lemmy side and say 'fork this', starting with lemmy as a base so they get a lot of the ui stuff and whatnot but work under that framework on things like decentralized identities / making mod actions a per-user opt-in situtation? Not suggesting to do actually that, just curious what you think on chances of success if someone decided to try it that way

My guess is that there would still be a lot of issues (like how so many lemmy sites seem to have a lot of stability/network problems associated with mass federation) and it would be a big challenge due to existing assumptions in lemmy codebase. Plus - unless whatever fork with the changes actually managed to gain enough momentum to overtake the original - most would just ignore it due to the network effort.

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I think the network effect really is big. And nostr already has a really big network. Likely bigger than Lemmy. I don't think there is anything I would want to keep from the backend. Some of the mobile clients are pretty good though so we could write a backend and keep the API almost the same. Then have minimal effort to adjust the front end. Getting other people on board to host instances would be the hardest part. And very likely could fail I'm just throwing out ideas here. It might be better to build a layer on top of nostr to get those hard to implement features like stickied post.

> And nostr already has a really big network. Likely bigger than Lemmy.

never realized that. i guess it makes some sense given dorsey literally promoting it with bitcoin but the slices of it i've seen just seem a lot less lively compared to lemmy. still that;s what i get for assuming i guess

> so we could write a backend and keep the API almost the same. Then have minimal effort to adjust the front end.

good point. i should have considered that. probably not just the mobile clients either