Have you considered getting a BTC enabled debit card? A merchant doesn't necessarily have to accept Bitcoin to get paid with Bitcoin but not "in" Bitcoin.

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That is the same of sell some bitcoin and buy with cash..

You know any card without KYC?

I've had several cards from bitpay all the way to Crypto dot com but they are all kyc. I know the cake wallet will let you buy prepaid debit cards but I just want to use lightning p2p.

That’s it, to have that cards we have to give our ID so fuck that option, i know cakepay, but thats a shitty solution too..

If only we could nfc tap legacy networks with lightning wallets😏

That would be a good solution i think, but the best solution is businesses accepting receive in Lightning.

In my opinion if a company doesn’t give me that option, it doesn’t deserve my money..

I hear you Jose. Though the fiat money I use for debit card sats is KYC'ed anyway and the card is cheaper for me to use than any card from the bank, no ATM fees and I get 2% cashback on purchases. So it's actually cheaper for me to do it this way than using my bank.

Which is kinda absurd but 🤷‍♂️

Everyone chooses what they want, they are personal choices. But sometimes, the cheap option ends up being expensive, and compromising personal sovereignty to save a few bucks, in my personal opinion, doesn't justify the savings. But again, this is a matter of personal choice.

Of course and I prefer peer-to-peer too. I wont be able to use it after Dec 31st anyway. New EU regulation and the provider will stop servicing the EU.

Bitcoin only obeys to code not regulation 😉😎

that's probably why I like it so much. I don't obey to well myself.

I didn't know bitpay is kyc. How about bit refill?

I don't remember if they are or not but this had them first and didn't like their service. I've tried most all cards.

Didn't like bit refill?

I haven't used it

Haven't tried bit refill yet. And I probably won't. I want to use my lightning wallet.

Yeah LN everywhere would be lovely.