Nostr

imagine for a minute you were 60 years old.

imagine that you studied photography in highschool, and college, and got your degrees in fine art, and even went on to get a phd in fine art.

you became a teacher of photography

you worked professionally in the field,

starting in a photo lab, and moving your way up.

you never worked for national geographic, or shot any spreads for rolling stone,

but you were or arguably are VERY good at what you do, and know it inside and out,

and helped a large number of people.

how is replacing these skills with a computer, good for anyone other than the software developers of that company?

do you feel it's possible for these people being displaced, to still exist in a field when it's perhaps literally all they know how to do, and have spent their entire lives working at a thing, to the point of mastery?

is that fair? or is it "the price of doing business" and "collateral damage" ?

just to be clear - i am not upset, but genuinely curious to see how people feel about these manner of things.

Kahn has always been a decent operation.

On the topic of AI assisted tutoring- how does this help the teacher, if say the AI teaches mathematical theory a different way than the teacher learned themselves? :) Stuff like that.

But more interested in how you feel ai would benefit multiple industries and those benefits.

thanks :)

liminal 🦠 2y ago

Forgive the long response, but I study this stuff and am particularly passionate about it.

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These are absolutely valid questions, especially in a world where work+money is the driving force for self-worth. And I am absolutely an advocate for helping those individuals during this transition.

I'll counter with a similar example. What about the neurosurgeon, spent x-amount of years to become highly trained to perform life-critical operations on patients? Suppose we get to a scenario where robotic surgery is 10x more precise and accurate and 100x cheaper than than a surgery done by a human. What happens to the neurosurgeon? They essentially dedicated their lives to become highly skilled at a task and now what, are they out of a job? If they think of themselves as just a pair of finely tuned hands then sure, but a neurosurgeon is trained on much more than that. There is the human connection, and the ability to analyze and *understand* medical literature. Yes an AI can analyze millions of articles, but it takes someone with specialized knowledge to comb through it and verify that the information is true.

To rephrase, if you believe you are the hands/tools of an operation, doing monotonous repetitive tasks and not giving any cognitive contribution, then sure that job is gone. If you are the brains/architect of an operation, then you will utilize AI to go farther and do more than you could do individually. This can give a great opportunity for the solo/small teamed operations which can move and iterate fast. Large corporations may have a lot of hands, but they can get stuck in the bureaucracy.

AI art has been tuned on what is popular and can be used to earn money. Artists can (a) leverage AI to speed up the monotonous work, or (b) if they are particularly gifted create mind blowing paradigm shifts that AI would never be trained on in that is usually not appropriate for money earning because they are too *out there*.

Sal Khan has stated that teachers can use this AI to help them refine a curriculum, teaching a different way is perfectly fine so long as the learning happens. Hell, when things are told to me in a multitude of ways I start to understand it more fully.

Let AI do the boing stuff. Its great at that. What a computational system will never have, however is the *meaning* generating process that biology and therefore humans have.

Let us be free to innovate without restriction.

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ringo 2y ago

interesting. I appreciate your well articulated and interesting response, so thank you .

liminal 🦠 2y ago

That's not to say that things won't be difficult in the near term. We've essentially always existed to learn a skill and capitalize on it. Only the privileged are currently allowed to explore new ideas without financial risk.

Most derive their sense of self worth and meaning in life from their occupation and the income that comes with it. AI is fundamentally changing that. Society needs to accommodate and move away from that perspective (UBI is a promising route).

Without the tethers of "need to have a job -> earn money to live" we all will have the opportunity to explore our curiosities. We ultimately need to get there fast, otherwise there will be a lot of suffering, across all walks of life.

liminal 🦠 2y ago

Appreciate you for being open enough to listen to my take, thanks for that 🤙

ringo 2y ago

I may not agree with portions of it, but I don't exist to change your mind, either.

It takes all kinds of noodles, to make soup.

ringo 2y ago

oh, and you're most welcome. :)