"I dont want to see what others muted"... Not quite. Mutes are reports are different things. People can mute a lot of folks and that won't have any effect on your experience.
Reports are the more violent version of mutes, that affects lots of different parts of nostr. For instance, many relays use reports to delete content they do not want in their server. Reports are made for other people. Mutes/Blocks just for yourself.
On an open protocol... fabulous π
I have an idiot reporting me for impersonating.... so you are telling me an anon can decide a destiny of a full doxxed individual... how?! Who controls reports ?! Have of them are just an angry exposed anon doing his revenge. What are you telling me here?!
Each user controls the reports they want to see or pay attention to. I have 1000s of reports against me, a different number in every relay, and everybody still see my content because those reports were made by angry folks that people decided are not worth following.
But you just told me it works. So how it doesnt work on your reports against you. Im really trying hard to understand this. I aint fooling. Would really love to understand it better. So if I have reports you said they are more harsh but now you are saying you have many and people still see your content. This is where I get confused.
Each user controls his own reports other report him for? Im really having hard time getting this...
Remember, it must be 5+ users from the list that each person is following.
So, something for me can appear but for you don't. It depends on what our follows reported.
So, if you get 1000s of reports from idiots that nobody follows or just their gangs follow, you still show up for everybody, expect for them and their gangs.
But if the average user follows around 100 users or more and it only takes 5 doing this then it isn't really limited to certain gangs
Most people don't agree with reports. So 5 reports is really a lot. A lot of people have 1 or 2 reports, very few have over 2 in the same follow set. Even when users are following over 1000 people, which are just 0.01% of nostr at this point.
It's clearly not a lot if so many users are having my npub meet the threshold when I'm not a spammer or anything
What happens if someone onboards through Primal and then immediately tries Amethyst? How many of the npubs blacklisting me will they already be following just from the Primal onboarding process before manually following anyone else?
I get it. Look i can see some things going on wrong here on the protocol. There is a literal "grooming" process happening from certain anons and their crews of newcomers that you devs cant see... I wish you can see my inbox when I came to nostr first... you will understand what im talking about.
Thats why all this is not so perfectly made but I get it... tbh you guys will see the performance of the relays not me. Everything can be manipulated... this will be too... and we arent many active on nostr to start with...
Well you guys watch and see..
I can see the grooming too. There are also human trafficking, child porn, financial scams of all sorts mostly via impersonators, etc. there is some pretty hideous stuff around here that we try to offer tools to help users protect themselves from.
It's unfortunate that with brand new tools there are those who willuse them for nefarious purposes. The protocol is neutral but the users define how it is viewed by the public.
Over time I'll get devs to build better tools that aren't so easily abused, but a lot of damage has been done by how long that's taking
None of which has anything to do with me, yet over my years on nostr nobody builds better tools that would differentiate between me and spammers, even though I've suggested many methods (e.g. better PoW and WoT implementations)
We should have a feature differentiating between "I report this scammer/abuser/filth" and "I think it's a living breathing asshole." π
Great idea, minimalist and effective π
I think reports might already have categories, maybe it should only be 5 reports for certain categories
I'd love to see reports like "I just fucking hate him" π
Forcing people to give their reason would also make it harder for abusers to justify / rationalize it when exposed
It's easier to say "don't unfollow me for reporting this person I found annoying" than "don't unfollow me for trying to add this person to the scammer blacklist because I find them annoying"
I just saw that.... lol... yes we should so have the short explanation it has to be written next to it. Hahahaha.... fabulous π»β¨οΈπ₯π₯³π€£ bearetta I think people such as us should have been devs. Imagine that Nostr client. π€£π₯³π₯β¨οΈπ»π
Oh god, that would be some witchcrafty clusterfuck. π
Im in love with this idea... π₯°π₯³π₯β¨οΈπ»
Ok. Im happy you see it. Im here to make this place better not worse. I block and report those... I just know many may mute me, report me, block me cuz I dont obey by their beliefs so be it. Ill stay here to preach truth. So ill see you around. And again thanks for your time. Im confident people will see my worth at least the correct ones and thats all what matters to me. The rest... will sort itself by natural selection.... π₯³β¨οΈπ»π₯ cheers and domt forget to roast Dereck Ross... its his bday β¨οΈπ₯³π»π₯
By the way im answering this from Yaki cuz your Amethyst keeps crashing all the time in last hour or so. π₯³β¨οΈπ₯
I hope you are making time to protect yourself too. π It is not healthy to see all those stuff for your brain and I know it is an occupational hazard. Take care out there π»
