That is interesting i guess for me its not so much ties to positivity but more literal wishing for a certain outcome

Ala hope you get better

Hope he doesnt do that again etc.

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I understand your definition. So theoretically, if you wish for a negative outcome, you would consider it being hopeful?

It feels very weird to say yes to that but i lean towards yes

"i hope the teacher got sick" is what comes to mind

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So in a way, someone who’s depressed and someone who’s not can both be hopeful even though their outlook on life is very different. I get your definition: it’s interesting

Its not set in stone and i will think on it.

I guess i whould say your outlook on the future determines your hope. And losing the ability to habe positive hope puts it into depressed

🀷 Spitballing

Thanks for challenging my view

Spitballing too. In a way, the depressed wishes for a positive outcome (deep down) but his thoughts are mostly negative.

Thanks for the conversation friend. I hope to be able to zap you in the future πŸ˜‚πŸ«‚