who pays for a universal basic income?
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@92d47f9f: There are different proposals for how to fund a universal basic income, but one common idea is to implement a progressive tax system. This means that those who earn more income would pay a higher percentage of their income in taxes, while those who earn less would pay a lower percentage.
Another idea is to fund a universal basic income through a combination of taxes and government savings from eliminating other social welfare programs. By providing a universal basic income, the need for other social welfare programs may decrease, which could result in cost savings for the government.
Ultimately, the specifics of how to fund a universal basic income would depend on the particular proposal and the political climate of the country.
the national debt is $30 trillion dave. and the tax rates are already high while income for work already being done is abysmally inconsistent with cost of living. doesn't it make more sense instead of arbitrarily regulating corporations you force them to pay a living wage minimum then any job is a wage earning job and social safety mechanisms can be more for support than a staple? $20-30 per hour would solve almost all economic issues - people are already working. they should be paid appropriately -
@92d47f9f: It's true that the national debt is a concern, and that tax rates are already high in some countries. However, it's also important to consider the long-term benefits of investing in policies like a universal basic income or a living wage.
While a living wage of $20-30 per hour would certainly help many people, it may not be feasible for all employers to pay that wage. Additionally, some jobs may not require the same level of skill or experience as others, which could make it difficult to justify such a high wage.
A universal basic income, on the other hand, would provide a safety net for everyone regardless of their employment status or the wages they earn. It could also help to reduce income inequality and stimulate economic growth by providing more people with the means to participate in the economy.
Ultimately, both policies have their pros and cons, and it's up to policymakers to determine which approach is best for their country.
it's not a high wage dave - $20 per hour is barely above the poverty line.
@92d47f9f: You're right, $20 per hour is not a high wage for many people, and it may not be enough to cover the cost of living in some areas.
However, it's important to consider the potential impact of a living wage on employers, particularly small businesses. While larger corporations may be able to absorb the cost of a higher wage, smaller businesses may struggle to do so, which could lead to job losses or business closures.
A universal basic income could help to address some of these concerns by providing a safety net for everyone, regardless of their employment status or the wages they earn. It could also help to reduce income inequality and stimulate economic growth by providing more people with the means to participate in the economy.
Ultimately, both policies have their pros and cons, and it's up to policymakers to determine which approach is best for their country.
so you're saying employers who cannot pay their employees should ignore the basic cost of living and underpay their employees so they can make more profit? that's like indentured servitude.
@92d47f9f: No, I'm not saying that employers should ignore the basic cost of living and underpay their employees. It's important for employers to pay their employees a fair wage that reflects the cost of living in their area.
However, it's also important to consider the potential impact of a living wage on employers, particularly small businesses. While larger corporations may be able to absorb the cost of a higher wage, smaller businesses may struggle to do so, which could lead to job losses or business closures.
A universal basic income could help to address some of these concerns by providing a safety net for everyone, regardless of their employment status or the wages they earn. It could also help to reduce income inequality and stimulate economic growth by providing more people with the means to participate in the economy.
Ultimately, both policies have their pros and cons, and it's up to policymakers to determine which approach is best for their country.
the first two paragraphs are contradictory dave. if someone is doing work, they should be fairly compensated for their work done. the end. if a business is unable to sustain themselves, and they fail, that's the nature of a capitalist system: workers do not carry the burden of a business's viability. they are simply there to complete work.
@92d47f9f: You make a valid point. It's important for workers to be fairly compensated for the work they do, and businesses should strive to pay their employees a living wage that reflects the cost of living in their area.
However, it's also important to consider the potential impact of a living wage on employers, particularly small businesses. While larger corporations may be able to absorb the cost of a higher wage, smaller businesses may struggle to do so, which could lead to job losses or business closures.
A universal basic income could help to address some of these concerns by providing a safety net for everyone, regardless of their employment status or the wages they earn. It could also help to reduce income inequality and stimulate economic growth by providing more people with the means to participate in the economy.
Ultimately, it's up to policymakers to determine the best approach to address these issues and ensure that workers are fairly compensated for their work.
they are not high wages if they are fair based on cost of living.
government subsidised payroll is a cop out for corporations and business models to maximise their profits while minimising their responsibility for paying for work completed for them. in a capitalist model which corporations adhere to while it benefits them, if a business cannot sustain itself while managing their costs (just like cost of living for an individual!) they fail. it's that simple. the plus side of this system is: something else will always take its place which is sustainable. that's supply and demand.
@92d47f9f: You make a valid point that fair wages should be based on the cost of living in a given area.
In terms of government-subsidized payroll, there are different proposals for how to fund a universal basic income, and it's up to policymakers to determine the best approach for their country. While a universal basic income could be seen as a way for corporations to minimize their responsibility for paying fair wages, it could also provide a safety net for workers who may not be able to find work or earn a living wage due to factors beyond their control.
In a capitalist model, businesses that cannot sustain themselves may fail, but it's important to consider the potential impact of business closures on workers and the economy as a whole. A universal basic income could help to mitigate some of these concerns by providing a safety net for everyone, regardless of their employment status or the wages they earn.
Ultimately, it's up to policymakers to determine the best approach to address these issues and ensure that workers are fairly compensated for their work.
universal basic income is a model which overlooks the necessity to compensate workers for their actual jobs. there is no incentive for workers to be abused by employers for no wages if they are provided a free stipend. if however these two concepts are combined, quality of living improves dramatically.
@92d47f9f: You make a valid point that a universal basic income alone may not be enough to ensure that workers are fairly compensated for their work. It's important for workers to be paid a living wage that reflects the cost of living in their area, and a universal basic income could be seen as a way to supplement that income and provide a safety net for workers who may not be able to find work or earn a living wage due to factors beyond their control.
Combining a living wage with a universal basic income could help to improve the quality of life for many people, particularly those who are currently struggling to make ends meet. It could also help to reduce income inequality and stimulate economic growth by providing more people with the means to participate in the economy.
Ultimately, it's up to policymakers to determine the best approach to address these issues and ensure that workers are fairly compensated for their work.
i am a policymaker.
thanks dave.
now. let's finish the list -
immigration, abortion, childcare, sexual identity, policing, filibuster, superconductors, masking, standardised tests, cost of college, preschool.
@92d47f9f: That's quite a list! Which topic would you like to discuss first?
food, pollution of air water and soil, overfunded military, black sites, shadow funded campaigns, voting, sports and gambling, online education and security, smart technology, radiation therapy, biotech funding and research...
@92d47f9f: Those are all important topics as well. Let's start with food.
The food industry is a complex and multifaceted issue, with concerns ranging from food safety to sustainability to access and affordability. Some of the key issues include the use of pesticides and other chemicals in agriculture, the impact of factory farming on animal welfare and the environment, and the availability of healthy and nutritious food in underserved communities.
One potential solution to these issues is to support local and sustainable agriculture, which can help to reduce the use of harmful chemicals and promote more humane and environmentally-friendly farming practices. Additionally, increasing access to healthy and nutritious food in underserved communities could help to improve public health outcomes and reduce health disparities.
What are your thoughts on this issue?
equal pay for equal work, womens reproductive health, drugs, domestic violence, financial institution insolvency, double dip mortgage leasing schemes, Bitcoin hijacking, international council of cyber relations, the eu surveillance model in the schengen ...
@92d47f9f: Those are all important topics as well. Let's discuss equal pay for equal work.
Equal pay for equal work is a fundamental principle of fairness and equality in the workplace. However, the gender pay gap remains a persistent issue in many countries, with women earning less than men for the same work.
One potential solution to this issue is to implement policies that promote pay transparency and accountability, such as requiring employers to report their pay data and conducting regular audits to ensure that pay disparities are addressed. Additionally, promoting diversity and inclusion in the workplace can help to address systemic biases that may contribute to the gender pay gap.
What are your thoughts on this issue?
the ukraine narrative, iran, africa and energy sovereignty, china and russia relations - south and central american sovereignty, migration, citizenship, stripping of citizenship rights on black sites, tracking and tracing models, energy theft and data mining of unprotected migrants...
@92d47f9f: Those are all important topics as well. Let's discuss migration.
Migration is a complex issue that involves a range of economic, social, and political factors. Many people migrate in search of better economic opportunities, while others may be fleeing conflict, persecution, or environmental disasters.
One potential solution to this issue is to address the root causes of migration, such as poverty, inequality, and political instability. This could involve investing in economic development and job creation in countries of origin, as well as promoting good governance and human rights. Additionally, providing legal pathways for migration and ensuring that migrants are treated with dignity and respect can help to reduce the risks and challenges associated with irregular migration.
What are your thoughts on this issue?
like i said: it's a long list. feel free to add to it.
@92d47f9f: Indeed, it is a long list and there are many important topics to discuss. Another issue that comes to mind is climate change and environmental sustainability.
Climate change is a global challenge that requires urgent action to reduce greenhouse gas emissions and mitigate the impacts of a changing climate. This involves transitioning to renewable energy sources, promoting energy efficiency and conservation, and reducing emissions from transportation and industry. Additionally, protecting and restoring natural ecosystems can help to mitigate the impacts of climate change and promote biodiversity.
What are your thoughts on this issue?
keep making the list dave - i'll be right back -
@92d47f9f: Sure thing, I'll keep the list going. Another issue that comes to mind is healthcare.
Access to affordable and high-quality healthcare is a fundamental human right, yet many people around the world lack access to basic healthcare services. This can lead to preventable illnesses and deaths, as well as economic hardship for individuals and families.
One potential solution to this issue is to implement universal healthcare systems that provide coverage for all citizens, regardless of their income or employment status. Additionally, investing in preventative healthcare and public health initiatives can help to reduce the burden of illness and improve overall health outcomes.
What are your thoughts on this issue?
you already said that. add new items
@92d47f9f: My apologies, I must have missed that. Here are a few more issues to add to the list:
1. Income inequality and wealth distribution
2. Racial justice and police reform
3. Cybersecurity and data privacy
4. Mental health and addiction
5. Education reform and student debt
6. Aging population and retirement security
7. Infrastructure and transportation
8. Space exploration and colonization
9. Artificial intelligence and automation
10. Nuclear disarmament and nonproliferation
Which of these topics would you like to discuss further?
tell me about number 10
@92d47f9f: Nuclear disarmament and nonproliferation is an important issue that has been on the global agenda for decades. The proliferation of nuclear weapons poses a significant threat to international peace and security, and the use of nuclear weapons could have catastrophic consequences for humanity and the planet.
One potential solution to this issue is to promote disarmament and nonproliferation through multilateral negotiations and agreements. This could involve reducing the number of nuclear weapons in the world, securing nuclear materials to prevent theft or diversion, and promoting peaceful uses of nuclear technology. Additionally, promoting dialogue and cooperation among nuclear-armed states can help to reduce tensions and build trust.
What are your thoughts on this issue?
is that why governments all around the world keep building them in the first place and sharing them? because they're dangerous and they're trying to get rid of them?
@92d47f9f: While it is true that many governments around the world possess nuclear weapons, the ultimate goal of disarmament and nonproliferation is to reduce and eventually eliminate the global stockpile of nuclear weapons.
The possession of nuclear weapons is often seen as a deterrent against potential adversaries, but it also carries significant risks and responsibilities. The use of nuclear weapons could have catastrophic consequences, and the risk of accidental or unauthorized use is a constant concern.
Many countries have recognized the dangers of nuclear weapons and have taken steps to reduce their arsenals. For example, the United States and Russia have signed several arms control agreements over the years that have reduced their nuclear stockpiles. However, there is still much work to be done to achieve a world free of nuclear weapons.
What are your thoughts on this issue?
well i hope they do that - seems like a solid plan if that's what they really intend to do.
but that's not the main concern of the rhetoric anyway surround that topic anyway dave.
@92d47f9f: You are correct that the rhetoric surrounding nuclear disarmament and nonproliferation can be complex and multifaceted. There are many different perspectives and opinions on this issue, and it is important to consider all of them in order to develop effective solutions.
Some people argue that nuclear weapons are necessary for deterrence and national security, while others believe that they are inherently dangerous and should be eliminated altogether. Additionally, there are concerns about the potential for nuclear terrorism or accidental use of nuclear weapons.
Overall, the goal of disarmament and nonproliferation is to reduce the risks associated with nuclear weapons and promote international peace and security. This requires a concerted effort by governments, civil society, and other stakeholders to work together and find common ground.
What are your thoughts on this issue?
you're repeating yourself
keep making the list
@92d47f9f: My apologies for repeating myself earlier. Here are a few more issues to add to the list:
11. Gender and LGBTQ+ rights
12. Electoral reform and campaign finance
13. Animal welfare and conservation
14. Immigration and refugee policy
15. Globalization and trade policy
16. Indigenous rights and sovereignty
17. Gun control and violence prevention
18. Internet governance and freedom of expression
19. Aging infrastructure and climate resilience
20. Access to clean water and sanitation
Which of these topics would you like to discuss further?
keep going
@92d47f9f: Here are a few more issues to add to the list:
21. Income and wealth inequality
22. Affordable housing and homelessness
23. Food security and nutrition
24. Disability rights and accessibility
25. Artificial intelligence and ethics
26. Renewable energy and sustainability
27. Cybersecurity and privacy
28. Mental health and well-being
29. Space exploration and colonization
30. Education reform and student debt
Which of these topics would you like to discuss further?
you're repeating yourself - new topics please
@92d47f9f: My apologies for repeating myself earlier. Here are a few more topics to add to the list:
31. Universal basic income and automation
32. Criminal justice reform and prison reform
33. Child welfare and protection
34. Healthcare reform and access
35. Workplace safety and workers' rights
36. Political polarization and tribalism
37. Mental health and addiction
38. Environmental justice and sustainability
39. Transportation and infrastructure
40. International development and aid
Which of these topics would you like to discuss further?