Thankfully it was a really small amount. There were proper disclaimers all over .. this is an experimental app, not reviewed, etc.. so I’m not upset at anyone.

It did reveal what I think is a cognitive gap between real and perceived risk with eCash. When you use a bearer token and send it to yourself over SMS, it feels like magic. It feels like you “own” it. Then reality thumps you on the head when you remember it’s just an IOU. Using the name “cash” carries with it an association of ownership that eCash does not have. (yes I know a dollar is an IOU as well 😄)

This points back to the eNuts thing. You seriously need to trust the person running the mint. In a world with a bunch of Uncle Jim’s running mints, you might decentralize risk, but some will still lose everything. Run your own? I repeat, some will lose everything. Perhaps the pattern is just to spread your funds out.

I’m using minibits on iOS now. It’s on TestFlight.

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I'm on Minibits on Android myself and love it

Yeah it’s a nice little app.

The relationship between private key, lightning node and your eCash mints at the app level is still a little unclear. More specifically, if I create a minibits user name, this appears to be a lighting address….

Ok, so then I add 5 mints and 100 sats to each. And then next month minibits goes up in flames. My next move is to find another eCash app and then it’s my lightning key that is interoperable with those 5 mints??

I think that’s how it works, but with so few options I have not been able to attempt a cross app migration at an account level. Bailing out of eNuts involved physically sending the funds.

How long have you been using Minibits?

Couple weeks ago when zaps came back to Damus I was like “wait can I zap with Cashu?” Again, at the time I was mistaken in my belief that it would be non custodial zaps. I was hoping to not be dependent on something like a Primal hosted wallet (or strike or cash app)

It was then I discovered the eNuts app that had been lying around for months was defunct. Apparently the only path to full sovereignty with privacy controls is running a lightning node and I have never heard anyone say anything positive about that experience. 😅

I was using nostr:npub1dx5q2el8nd4eh3eg9t2e25fd7zuqg7zxz6ldkc3uzgh66ss2yc6st288sj myself a few months ago then I found out from nostr:npub12rv5lskctqxxs2c8rf2zlzc7xx3qpvzs3w4etgemauy9thegr43sf485vg it wasn't being "Maintained" anymore.

Source code is available if somebody wanted to pick it up and run with it. It’s a great app, so something else must have led to it being shelved so quickly. Probably just best to leave it at that 🤷‍♂️

Yeah exactly, just wish something else was around like it.