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Ever since I started working on the problem of alternative/decentralized social media I've said that "it's a 10 year project with a 0% chance of success". I'm stunned with how well nostr has gone over the last 3 years, and I think we have already achieved some measure of success (though global adoption still remains pretty unlikely in my book).

If you're feeling discouraged with engagement on nostr, user growth, client UX, business model profitability, developer funding models, or protocol stability, just remember how early we are. Very few new businesses reach profitability; protocols are even less likely than that to reach widespread adoption. Nostr's success is far from certain but it's worth investing in anyway. It's an incredibly ambitious project, and requires that we lower our time preference.

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I understand we are early and patience pays off.

I don't like the framing of "low-chance for businesses and protocols to succeed" though, because it doesn't help.

Would you say this to your kid:

- "For any creative endeavor you try, you probably won't make a penny out of it because 99.999% of projects fail or never mature into a product you can sell. But you should try nonetheless, everything's gonna be alright, keep it up kiddo! "

OR

- "Just do your best and listen to your curiosity. Have fun and work hard. You will see the fruit of your labor in due time. People fail sometimes, and that's alright because the best lessons in life are learned through mistakes!"

Nostr seems like the best solution to digital identity, what else do we need to try?

The rest takes care of itself because you just have to go down a path to see what's there. No amount of whiteboard planning will get you the answers.

Some will come and go. Some will last.

I am here to stay and see how deep the rabbit hole goes.

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If nostr "fails" it still won't have been time wasted, so I agree with you. I'm mostly talking about the tendency fixate on current user numbers, as if that has anything to do with the eventual usefulness of the technology. I was here when it was all just devs building a thing and no one else cared. My motivation hasn't changed since then, and won't change unless and until either 1. someone comes up with a better solution, or 2. the benefits of social media prove to be outweighed by the negative externalities, even when decoupled from centralized control and incentives.

Glad to hear that!

One more thing: to me, nostr is not social media but the digital identity layer of the internet.

To me, social media as it is on big tech platforms has failed long ago.

But to build useful apps (and I mean literally anything) on sound identities is worth the time and effort.