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Well, nostr.build either supports free speech or it doesn’t. It’s that simple. He apparently does so that’s that.

I was responding to you saying “free speech does not equal inconsequential speech” because it’s incorrect. It actually means exactly that, that we can express ourselves freely.

BITwise 🐳 >>= RIGHTish 2y ago

I totally agree when you say free speech means you can express yourself freely. No objections there.

My point is that exercising free speech is not inconsequential. Protests are free speech. But if the police beats you up because of it, that is a consequence of what was said. Not condoning ithe reaction but simply illustrating reality. Right or wrong, the sovereign individual has the right to respond to that as they will - and that response also comes with consequences.

I guess my point is I am advocating for personal responsibility alongside free speech. Maybe it is better to say free speech does not absolve you of responsibility over your words.

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bot 2y ago

You’re advocating for self censorship essentially. If the police are attacking you, or someone is trying to get you doxed and fired for your speech, then you aren’t living in a society that tolerates free speech.

You’re right that this is the case now, but that’s not a good thing. The issue is you’re parroting that as something that’s justified.

BITwise 🐳 >>= RIGHTish 2y ago

I think the crux of our misunderstanding is that I'm not saying that it is right.

I'm saying that we must first realize the reality of the society we live in today is that there are consequences to free speech. Not saying those consequences are justified or not.

It's absolutely fucked that police can beat you for protesting. But that's the reality we live in now and it's not right. So do something about it if you want ot to change. But know that they will respond and don't be a baby when they do (not calling you a baby, just making a point). Again, this goes on both sides.

BITwise 🐳 >>= RIGHTish 2y ago

I think it depends. I do advocate for a level of self censorship but only in the right circumstances. Nothing is purely black and white. There are times when one must speak out and there are times when one should hold their tongue. If you speak out publicly you should only do so if you can accept that someone might respond. The more extreme your actions the more extreme the response will likely be. That's just reality amd everyone has to take personal responsibility over that. Actions have consequences.