That’s how I see it too.

Assuming they somehow have a point and bitcoin is actually amazing, I don’t see any of them caring about anyone but themselves. All I see is them talking about stacking sats or whatever. Just them accumulating and accumulating over time.

I haven’t seen anyone talking about how to actually help more people understand it and use it. On the contrary, anyone who doesn’t understand it is just an idiot. Not to mention the fact that people have to be highly technologically literate to use it properly. This immediately leaves out a significant percentage of the population but they think BTC will solve EVERYONE’S problems. Everything about it is impractical at the moment.

They talk about how it’s such an amazing store of wealth but it’s ridiculously volatile. If someone earns $100 in Singapore and wants to send it to their family in India using bitcoin, if their family doesn’t immediately convert to fiat when they receive the BTC, they could easily have only $60 left if they take too long to convert. That’s literal destruction of wealth.

They talk about it “going to the moon” but they’re all hurling zaps at each other being like “it’s only two cents lol.” Ok, but if it does indeed go to the moon you just sent someone $400 for a meme. To me it indicates that they themselves don’t actually know how to value their sacred money properly.

And honestly, throwing this money of theirs at each other is gross. It’s very “let them eat cake” of them. (Don’t know if this last point will make sense to anyone)

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I wonder if I would get any zaps for posts that point out legitimate flaws and issues with bitcoin. My point being that it doesn’t encourage debate but conformity.

I doubt you would get zaps. I agree with you re:conformity instead of debate.

I feel like a lot of us have been trying to make this point and it’s not getting across.

They don’t care. It’s like trying to explain the health detriments of cocaine to a crack addict.

Are you happy with your fiat savings, constantly losing purchasing power for decades?

Are you happy with your government? Keep using their money. That'll show them.

If you invest your money in the market, you’re essentially guaranteed returns. Not schizo day trading, but mutual funds and that sort of thing.

Lol @ mutual funds and that sort of things. Hilarious

Not everything is about money. You’re addicted to this paradigm. It doesn’t matter.

If someone agree with you.

You have probably never seen #Bitcoiners fighting because you don't understand what they're talking about - too technical.

One of the greatest wars (so far) was the Blocksize war. If you like to read, an awesome book right here: https://www.amazon.com/Blocksize-War-controls-Bitcoins-protocol/dp/B08YQMC2WM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6YtS5ZNuuTw

No you don’t understand. Put the coin away my nigga

A lot of us do have the capacity to understand technical things actually. Too many of you are used to hiding behind “you have no ability to grasp what I am taking about with your inferior brain,” it’s very off putting and it ultimately hurts your supposed goal of worldwide adoption.

You think it’s good only you select few understand bitcoin? That’s actually a case AGAINST bitcoin.

I don’t want to go read a whole book actually. I was hoping to learn something by potentially having a conversation with you.

The tech behind email or web is too technical too. Majority of users have no idea what's going on. #Bitcoin is a protocol like TCP/IP. It could get technical.

It took me quite a few books to understand many things, if you don't like reading, I'm not going to push. It's your life.

If you want to learn, ask a question. I'll be happy to answer it. Don't tell me how somebody does or doesn't do something, please.

Imagine reading entire books to justify your gambling addiction.

Imagine not learning about history and supporting your government, no matter what.

Regular People can be pushed to learn the web and email (which is not that complicated at the user-level) because they have to so they can work and do basic tasks. Crypto and Nostr's is not necessary and there is no motivation to learn it when simpler alternatives exist

Regular people have no idea how the web or email works. They just learned how to operate clients.

I love to read.

In this case you are attempting to enlighten us about bitcoin, which you seem to care a lot about. If you understand it so well, surely you can teach us about it using your own words.

I don’t actually care about bitcoin so I’m not going to go read a book about it.

I’ve already written out the issues I have with bitcoin, as I currently understand it. Feel free to address them.

I addressed the first one. You didn't like to check it, why should I bother?

I must have missed it.

Which point did you address and how?

You’re wasting your time on the debt slaves that will be working for us in a few years

The mask slips. You just want to be the new Jews. That’s why you prop up deflationary assets.

Hahahaha

Everyone point and laugh at the debt slave

> Sees world debt system

> Tells everyone he hates it

> Tells everyone to go to different system (that's totally different for real)

> Secretly wants it to be just like the old system and to be in charge this time

You

What's your solution retard?

A new Holocaust is the only answer no matter how many times you run from it.

Definitely something on the right side of history says 😂🤦🏻

Kike slave.

You do understand the current debt system has a centralized group in control of the money supply right? Did you get dropped on your head when you were younger?

You people always try this pivot. It’s a fallacy. “The current thing is bad therefore you should use my equally bad thing.”

I don’t think you’re smart enough to have a conversation comparing the current thing with the new thing so I’ll just leave it at that

Yeah, you cryptards always do this too. When you point out that there’s not much inherently better about Bitcoin you short circuit and go to ad hominem. It’s pathetic.

“I don’t think you’re smart enough” just makes YOU look dumb for being unable to bring any actual arguments to the table.

It also makes you an asshole.

Sorry but when I asked #[14] for a better solution than #Bitcoin, he decided to mention Jews.

Yeah, he's definitely NOT smart enough.

Cope

How is bitcoin different? There’s nothing inherent about bitcoin that makes it immune to eventually being centralized and concentrated in the hands of the few.

Concentrated ≠ centralized.

The issuance of #Bitcoin is set until year 2140. Do you know the issuance of the USD next year? Or in 2030?

There's one of many differences.

Concentrated does = centralized nigga you’re literally just lying.

Ew

And there it is.

You don't desire to free the world from debt. You just want to become the masters.

I don’t want to be controlled by banks. That doesn’t mean there won’t be people smarter and wealthier than those that don’t care to learn about the future of money

"You're just not smart enough!"

Okay faggot, go look up Dunning-Kruger and maybe ask yourself if it's talking about you. And if it's not (it is, but let's assume your pride won't let you see that), then ask yourself if maybe you're so far into your little crypto circlejerk that you've missed the glaring reasons why bitcoin is such a mess, despite being challenged on it.

But no, you won't. Don't think about the privacy nightmare, the deflation problems, the issue of everyday people losing their keys and all their money in the process. Don't consider that bitcoin has already been pulled into the beast system via exchanges and the stock market and that its fate is effectively tied to the fate of the rest of the market. Ignore the problem of it relying on the internet being functional (it will ALWAYS be up, everyone knows that). None of that matters, right?

No, just keep staring at that stock chart and telling yourself that you're not so bad, you're not just a greedy investor and billionaire banker wannabe, you totally want to help humanity get away from fiat (and if you should become disproportionately rich in the process, why not?)

You are full of inconsistencies and blinded by greed. Your god is mammon.

I have already asked you before, retard. Do you have a better solution than #Bitcoin?

The Holocaust would have taken care of all our money problems.

You're wrong. Start here:

https://hrf.org/

Can you write out some points rather than link to a website?

Break free while you still can

What do you mean?

Leave the crypto world behind .

Oh. Yeah. I’m not in the crypto world. I do like to learn though and shitty discourse is a huge pet peeve.

"You're all speculative investors who just want to get in on the ground floor of a made-up currency. You're no different than the US dollar bankers that you hate."

"...Nuh uh! Here's a website!"

It's a good thing these people are too retarded to actually get people on board with bitcoin or they might be able to actually become the psychopath bankers they envy so much.

Since early 2020, HRF has allocated more than $2.2 million in BTC and USD to more than 70 developers, educators, and open-source initiatives across the world. HRF continues to raise support for the Bitcoin Development Fund, with the next round of gifts to be announced in May 2023.

One of the grants: $50,000 to William Casarin for his work on Nostr, a decentralized, censorship-resistant, open-source, Lightning-native protocol that allows for a global social network. In contrast to current social media platforms, Nostr users are not censored by governments, banned from posting, or required to register an ID to use the platform. HRF’s support will help Casarin develop, among other things, his popular “Damus” iPhone client.

I copied that from their site, you should be capable to open a link next time.

Cool? This doesn’t address any of our points.

Yes, I can click a link. Posting links and hoping websites will make arguments for you is lazy.

Why do they support Ukraine?

😂

The USD is supporting Ukraine. Also, are you retarded?

“The fed is bad therefore my fake Internet money is good” is not an argument.

Do you have a better solution?

Total Jew Death.

Goodbye retard

Nobody reading all that

I read it. Maybe your attention span is fried from all the zaps.

I read it too

What did it say?