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I was specific in what I wrote. I’m speaking as someone who may not know where to start. I honestly don’t know where to begin. So how about this…when using the app, what is the first thing I should do as a user? What is the second step? How do I add the relay? How do I personalize it?

Some apps are intuitive. For example, If I downloaded Bluesky, I could easily walk through the steps and know what to do without hand holding. I probably wouldn’t need instructions. That’s what I mean by intuitive. Those who have experience in making apps understand the lingo as well. I’m forward and direct when I write. So when I say “fix it”, I mean it. Perhaps, some of these devs could benefit from taking a few classes about user interface and UX. Or hire a consultant for help. It’s honestly a basic thing to do. And if it’s unaffordable to get help, then I would be personally hesitant about rolling out a product that users would have issues using. But that’s just me.

Dikaios1517 9mo ago

When you go to Jumble.social and log in, you have two main columns and some options in a sidebar. The left main column is mostly blank, with a heading encouraging you to "Choose a Relay," and the right column shows a list of random relays to choose from. Is there something particularly unintuitive about that?

Additionally, if you click on "Choose a Relay" you can choose to look at a "Following" feed or your "Bookmarks." Again, those seem pretty self-explanatory.

So I am sorry, but "it isn't intuitive" doesn't really help me understand what specifically you are finding unintuitive.

Now, if you want to see the Lockbox relay in particular, as I had suggested, it might not be immediately apparent how to do so. But then, Cody's not going to put "Hey, if you want to see a feed of what's on Lockbox, click here," on the front page of his client. Lockbox is just one of thousands of relays that someone might want to use.

What tool do you suppose one would intuitively use when they want to find something specific? Probably search, right? What happens when we search for lockbox? We are presented with the option to search for notes, tags, or relays that match that search criteria. The relay's information and feed shows up in the right column, with the option to add the relay as a favorite in the top right, indicated by a star icon.

So far, everything I have mentioned seems pretty intuitive to me.

Please point out specifically what is not intuitive, and even better, some suggestions about what could be changed to make it more intuitive.

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Latrica 9mo ago

Make a video showing how intuitive it is, upload it, and tag me when you’re done.

Latrica 9mo ago

Make a video of what you explained, upload it and tag me when you finish it. I’ll then share the video with 100 people using user research and ask them if they would have followed the same steps.

Dikaios1517 9mo ago

Sorry, but no. You are the one complaining that a client isn't intuitive without providing anything specific or productive that you are finding unintuitive. The onus is on YOU to provide constructive feedback about what specific things you would like to see change, why they posed a problem for you, and why you think others would find them to be a similar challenge.

How about you go ahead and make the video showing how following what you would intuitively do doesn't result in what you would expect, or leaves you stuck, and tag nostr:npub1syjmjy0dp62dhccq3g97fr87tngvpvzey08llyt6ul58m2zqpzps9wf6wl? That would be far more helpful.

Latrica 9mo ago

I’m not complaining. Where did I complain? I said I didn’t like the UI.

You suggested a product that doesn’t have a great UI. I said I didn’t like the UI. I said fix it. I then offered a suggestion. You didn’t like it. 😂

It’s cool. I wish you all the best. Good luck with the product. 👍

Dikaios1517 9mo ago

I understand you do not intend to respond any further, and that is fine. However, I do feel it is necessary to point out a few things, which you may or may not read later.

"I am not complaining... I said I didn't like the UI."

In what definition of "complain" is saying you don't like something not a complaint about it? To complain is defined as "To express dissatisfaction." In the following statements, you clearly expressed dissatisfaction, and therefore it was well within the scope of the term to characterize you as "complaining":

"I don't like the interface."

"It's confusing to me."

"It isn't intuitive."

"Fix it. It needs improvement."

You state that you offered a suggestion. The only suggestion I can see is "make it more intuitive" and "fix it." There are absolutely zero substantive suggestions that point at anything specific about HOW it is unintuitive, let alone anything helpful suggesting HOW it could be improved. Just a bare statement that it is unintuitive, and it should be fixed.

That gives the dev absolutely nothing to go on for what should be changed.

Given the above, if you can't add anything valuable that could actually assist with improving the client, you probably are wise to bow out of the conversation now.

Latrica 9mo ago

The onus is not on me. 😂

You’re funny.

Latrica 9mo ago

I’m not responding anymore to this. Have a goodnight.