no, not quite true ( correct me if im wrong). if i make an offer on my core lightning node via start9...and i go and pay 1 sat to that offer using CoinOS, it shows my lightning node alias. so it is not hiding my node by default.

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yeah hmmm

guess I dont quite understand how this works yet.

is it about hiding the *last hop* only?

(hard to tell because everytime I ask STN about this he just says "routing nodes cant see anything" which is obviously not correct. /rant)

i cant get any answers on it either. but, thats ok i suppose. i assumed the payee was hidden as that is how it is pitched on that bolt12 website but thats, not true out of the box. i dont really see how bolt12 is much different than ln address as it stands. disappointing 😔

yeah I'm still trying to figure out the tradeoffs of bolt11 w/blinded paths and bolt12

i think the answer is never receive lightning payments 😂😭

i really like that Robosats has a toggle for lnproxy for receiving

if I flip some XMR or something

but I don't know how to use it to receive a random p2p payment

ya, ive used that it works.

with a start9, you can run a core lightning and lnd node on thecsame machine. by doing so, you can have one of the nodes serve as your proxy to the main node too.

oh cool...

how do you figure out the budget for the proxy?

i opened a few channels on the proxy node, then drained the outbound liquidity so it can receive a buy or two in the amount i buyvm from robisats. then, i can send sats from proxy node to my main one when it gets pretty full.

very cool 👍

so in theory theres no way to tell that a single entity controls both those nodes

we need to figure out a little more about these blinded paths....

ya, and you could also burn the proxy node every now and then, start a new one with fresh tor url, rotate the utxos with some fresh coinjoined ones if you really wanna get crazy.

really want to see blinded paths here.

especially since payments of >1M sats probably MUST pass through the top 20 nodes or so

i know lnd has blinded paths, but ive never successfully used it to receive a payment. i think you need public channels for it to work is my guess