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Yes he should fly flags at half staff whenever anyone politically associated dies. Now that I've addressed that, what do you think about the left celebrating charlies death?
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The Stacker Monster 3mo ago

Great, I'm glad we agree he should have flown the flags at half staff when 2 elected Minnesota lawmakers were murdered. But when he chose to not do that, but to lower the flags immediately after personally announcing the murder of a right wing political podcaster/influencer, it comes across as very divisive. "If my team gets hurt, we mourn, if your team gets hurt, fuck em." That is what makes it feel like "there is a war about to erupt", its that type of attitude.

In terms of your second question, I think people (and bots I guess) are free to do what they want. I don't like celebrating someone's death personally, but I also don't like many other things I see people do on social media or in real life, but I don't try to control them or change that behaviour.

If an elected representative on the other hand were to celebrate the death of Charlie Kirk (or the Minnesota lawmakers like a republican senator did), there likely should be consequences for that action because of the position and power they hold. I think politicians should be held to a higher standard in general vs. the regular public, but unfortunately I think we actually allow them a much much lower bar.

I also generally am not a fan of super broad terms like "the left". I've seen so many people use the following terms interchangeably (I can't blame them as the president himself, their leader, taught them to do this through repetition): the left, communists, democrats, fascists, radical left, etc...

I lean left of center most of the time (although I didn't vote for Kamala and I did vote for George W) so would consider myself a moderate democrat. I don't want to be associated with the 1-5% "radical left". Similar to how I assume you may lean right of center (maybe not?), but you may not want to be associated with the far right radical elements that exist in that party.

We've drifted towards using super divisive language (starting from the top with the prez) which is a very common divide/conquer tactic used throughout history by the rich/powerful to control the masses.

I'd imagine in real life, if we were to share a meal, we'd agree on 80%+ of issues and perhaps even enjoy each others company.

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The Stacker Monster 3mo ago

I'd also add this post from twitter I read earlier today that may help explain where a lot of people are coming from:

Kirk should not have been killed. I have empathy for his daughters, his wife, his family, and his friends.

But my compassion has limits. I didn’t care for Charlie. He showed no empathy for others, and his words and actions dehumanized people.

You don’t get to be outraged when others don’t extend compassion toward him. That doesn’t mean we’re celebrating his death.. it means we’re human. It means our compassion has limits.

This is the limit..

MAGA you have no compassion for the people you despise, you had no compassion for the Dem Rep Hortman and her husband when they were murdered in their sleep... You had no compassion for Nancy Pelosi’s husband.; So spare us the selective outrage. This lack of compassion isn’t something unique to MAGA, we see it in all groups.

Violence comes from individuals who are unwell or hateful. Their politics and actions don’t always reflect the core values of a movement.

I am a conservative at heart. But MAGA is not conservatism. It’s extremism and division wrapped in cheap appeals to Christianity and patriotism. Nothing you show proves otherwise.