True. Did you ever watch '24'? Sutherland's 'teacup' hold made me groan every time

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Never watched 24 but I have seen that silly grip used in other shows.

I loved the show at the time but looking back it was totally 'war on terror' propaganda

Not surprising for its time.

My wife watched the whole series and said she agrees with your assessment but also appreciated they they were more on the nose they were when most other shows began to shy away from negatively representing foreign peoples.