From my experience, the men who have to boast about having "confidence" usually have the least... if any. 🤷♂️
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Oooh facts.
But I still stand by that they would say SOMETHING🤷🏽
To which Driver says and does nothing🤷🏽
He does a lot. He drives, robs banks and sacrifices himself to save the girl.
True.
But like. Small things. Human interpersonal relationship things.
If he's going to be silent. It's he grabbing her hand to reassure her? Hugging her? Body language?
Nah he's a robot except for in the car.
But it’s imperative that he stay anon. He’s afraid of revealing.
Yeah but. Like. I dunno you would think alone he would open up.
Or to have an actual character arc it would be something like she got him too open up and to surreal. She's the only one that could or something🤷🏽
I submit as evidence: 
You're right. I change my mind completely because I'm this angle he looks kind of like he's smiling even though thats most likely eisenstein's theory of montage juxtaposition at work🤷🏽
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Same actor, same director totally different outcome.
I would say they are spectacular together in Only God Forgives.
It didn't do as well as Drive. But I think it's miles better in comparison🤷🏽
Ya see I'm the opposite. I hated Only God Forgives. Sadistic trash, imo. 🤷♂️
I mean. It's not Oscar worthy.
But there's actual characters with arcs and events that flow in a real world. Which again I think it's miles away from Drive 🤷🏽🤣
Honestly, I also think he's autistic.
I've wondered that.
He's very awkward when he interacts with other characters. At least, when it comes to emotional situations. But when it comes to practical matters, like that scene when he kills those two hitmen in the motel, he's very focused and doesn't seem to be bothered, at all.
That could make it make sense for me.
But it doesn't mean I'll be able to sit through the movie🤣
Robot-autist
Maybe it's a prequel to the RoboCop universe
Lol! What is this?!
It's the song I think of when I think of Ryan Gosling. Mostly when I think of drive, but wherever he's being a robot.
Listen to the lyrics
Lol. You're clearly not a Ryan Gosling fan.
I like gosling.
I just don't like when directors use him as eye candy with no substance 🤷🏽
I'd actually counter what you said with saying I just hate Drive🤷🏽
I don't think there's an actual story there. Or maybe if they tooled with his character it would work for me.
But in a few movies gosling could be replaced with a plank of wood and it wouldn't change anything🤷🏽
That's a fair point.
I liked The Place Beyond the Pines and Crazy, Stupid, Love.
Lars and the real girl? Half nelson, fracture,
I never saw the notebook, but that's kind on everyone's lists of movies
You’re gonna need your suspension of disbelief powers set on 11 for the notebook. 🤣
Lars and the Real Girl definitely felt unique. I recommend watching Blue Valentine.
Oh shit I forgot about Blue Valentine! He was in that huh
I felt bad for couples when that movie came out thinking it was going to be a lovey dovey date movie
Nah, but it was nice to see a movie that did it's best to depict a realistic portrayal of a relationship.
Realistic though🤷🏽
That's sticking point for my brain in this thread🤣
As I said, it "did it's best". 🤷♂️
I mean... let's be honest, all relationships are dysfunctional to a degree.
Facts. But not necessarily on film
Can't argue with that. Movies always romanticize relationships.
Hmmmm
Yes?
The problem i’m having is i can’t think of a specific example, all that comes to mjnd is requiem for a dream, which is partially romanticized
But i am quite certain some movies are all about fucked up af relationships
Again, there is a special type of chemistry that comes from two strong silent types being together. LOL! I'm not saying that we're mutes. But, you get my point.
No no I totally get that.
I just would/have already argued that you still have to have some base level which I feel he didn't.
And if you're saying 2 string silent types fit together to have comfortable silence I would also argue Irene is in NO WAY a strong silent type.
Her whole dynamic was begging without saying it aloud. She was wanton. She would have craved for him to even say her name once more.