There is nothing wrong with being a feminist or a meninist in the context of supporting humans rights. Both men and woman should have basic human rights.
The root of the problem is the hate and the collectivism.
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Correction, radical feminism (the men hating kind)
And MGTOW, I personally had a friend which thankfully made it out of that rabitt hole. Imagine radical feminism but men hating on women.
Doomer ideology.
In which this is the collective case. The "all women are bad and you will never find a good girl", that's MGTOW - it's such dumb doomed shitm
Yup. If you can't get along with half of the human race, it's not half of humanity that's the problem, it's you, you're the problem.
Exactly. Luckily my friend isn't in that place anymore.
Good girls exist. Good men exist.
Instant gratification will kill you in the search for either though, work on yourself, live by (as you say) those values and prosper in the future.
A good person will come along :)
Do you know what pulled your friend out of that place?
I know you can't change people's minds for them, but there are some good friends of mine who are currently in dark places, and I'd like to help pull them out of that, if at all possible.
Honestly I am not sure if I said anything, but I recalled watching a MGTOW video from the channel he sent me. And maybe I am misremembering (maybe I didn't day anything), but I did feel like saying (maybe I did, I can't recall) that "nah man, a good girl exists".
He was saying (probably jokingly) about going Ted style to live out in the woods. But honestly maybe it was just him going through a certain strain of politics phase. I guess we all do.
My best advice is to destroy whatever monobelief they have in "the world is screwed". So, for example, with MGTOW it is then best to tell them " no, good girls exist - but you won't get then if you are a sob story"
The whole doomed stuff makes men esker and less attractive.
Victorhood > Victimhood (stolen from Candace Owens), maintain this mentality despite circumstance. Remember you only have one life, want to bitch everyday - or work your way around "the problems". That's what it comes down to.
He now is exercising and all, I am not sure what pulled him out.
But he didn't have a realization later it seemed and he is doing better it seems.
Not sure what it was, I dont think it was me though.