Nostr Web Client

Keet (peer to peer app) announced on Twitter that they’re launching their mobile client tomorrow, Jan. 30, and it’s such a letdown. Honestly I’ve been so hyped for Keet on mobile since they announced it last year. Because of its peer-to-peer nature, mobile use will require users to have Keet running on a desktop computer at home (essentially running your own server). Even more disappointing is that your mobile session and desktop session won’t be in sync, so in other words you’re phone and computer are 2 separate users in a shared chat room. And for now there’s no lightning integration in mobile (coming soon they said). It’s all a non-starter for me. 👎

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rabble 2y ago

Making pure peer to peer work on mobile is hard. I also want it un-tethered. But we struggled a lot with planetary.social being entirely on device and had to write a complete set of libraries to do it. https://GitHub.com/planetary-social/scuttlego

corndalorian 2y ago

No doubt! And I don’t want to discount the challenges they face in making this work. My criticism is more in their messaging leading up to this launch. They’ve hyped Keep as purely peer to peer with no servers since the start, and they’ve been teasing “coming soon on mobile” for months. And now upon launch, surprise you have to essentially run your own server at home or connect to a friend’s. Hopefully they can find a solution but for now it’s pretty disappointing, technical challenges acknowledged.

Makes me think of this line from the Nostr readme on GitHub:

corndalorian 2y ago

This is what they’ve messaged for months 👇 “without middlemen, third parties, or servers” which is why this is such a letdown. Just be honest with your users in your messaging:

Shawn 2y ago

Bummer. That is disappointing. I was pumped for this.

corndalorian 2y ago

Yea same. I had been testing Sphinx Chat which uses the lightning network, and it requires you to run a relay/server on your node or connect to someone else’s. When Keet announced this last year and said it would be coming to mobile, it sounded like it would solve for that limitation. Disappointing that they weren’t more transparent about this.

Shawn 2y ago

Same and same. I was bullish on Sphinx, but that’s too high a hurdle for most. Same with Keet, I’d think.

corndalorian 2y ago

Yep 💯

Derek Ross 2y ago

I kind of knew this was coming. That's the only way a mobile device would be able to function. I asked them a while ago about this and I didn't get an answer. I assumed this was going to be the case 😂 Oh well. Keet is still great for meetings and video chat. I use it for that often.

Roaming 2y ago

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WARTIME PSYCHOPATH™ ☣️⚔️ 2y ago

Oh boy 😕