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Some random thoughts on what you guys are discussing:

1. I agree that we need more than bitcoin conversations. I think this is an onboarding / discovery problem that needs to be solved. Ideally you’d sign up and be able to choose some topics to follow. Naturally this would reduce your exposure to bitcoin.

2. Nostr is and will be different things for different people and people will join for a variety of reasons not one. For some it will be the nature of the protocol. For others it may be just exploring something new and different. And for some it may actually be the payment stuff.

3. Zaps ARE a huge innovation on top of Nostr and for many will be the distinguishing factor that make it special. To say that zaps should be tucked away somewhere because it scares people off is incorrect IMO. In fact, I would argue it’s the “decentralization” talking points that scare people away. It sounds a lot like crypto / scam industry.

4. I think we’ll see different use cases and clients bring in different audiences who experience nostr differently. If @Zapstr ever comes to life, those people would have little to do with knitting or bitcoin. They’ll just stick to music and possibly general conversations. The same goes for Onlyzaps (not the hashtag but only fans clones and the likes). For these industries, how you handle payments IS the differentiator. It seems people forget these other use cases and only talk about social…

5. That’s all… give it time. Relax. Build. Talk about things other than bitcoin ;) Don’t ask people to set up a wallet. Let them explore on their own.

3. no one’s arguing that zaps should be tucked away… No one is scared of zaps. 🤦‍♀️

the reality is one can’t set up zaps with out seeing 100 absolutely substance-less “stack sats” posts, and every profile has cryptonouns, which is redundantly dumb if every profile and note has a zap button. This effort might still be needed, if you can stomach push back, out there, but here it’s an attack on zaps.

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This is just a problem of discovery. In time it’ll be solved.

Yeah or don’t mention at all.

some are talented enough evangelists that their efforts here might be useful out there, others didn’t see success out there, and have found a circular economy of evangelicalism here that makes them feel successful, but it’s not accomplishing anything except for fulfilling the bad expectations of people who were willing to put their reservations aside and peek inside

I think even talking about making money from your social media posts isn’t a great pitch for most people. Because most people read and don’t post.

🤷‍♂️

…ever shrinking creator funds yada yada…

Is not always about making money. It's about assigning value to this worthless likes.

Maybe the community could create a bot service that will automatically like all your posts once you set it up via DM.

Real friends don't let friends not use Zaps.

I think for those folks who opt into #onlyzaps, Nostr clients could combine zaps and likes into one button. Afterall, it's a zap with 0 sat.

If you like something on nostr, you should repost it, so word gets around and the content has a chance to gain visibility. Since Nostr is not Twitter, it works on decentralized relays.