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The twitter algo constantly pushes pro knots nonsense in my feed, making it disproportionately seem like they are a larger movement than they are.

Most of the people i see getting boosted are bot-looking account with almost no followers, podcasters, and people who have never contributed to bitcoin.

These people are spewing tons of technical inaccuracies and they don’t seem to understand basic things like block weight, witness discount, input scripts, relay vs consensus, op_return vs witness stack for storing images, etc.

I see people who actually know what they are talking about getting shit on (most core contributors, murch, antoine, gloria).

X is the worst possible place to have a discussion like this.

serapath【ツ】☮ 3mo ago 💬 1

interesting.

i thought by now it is clear, that what core is doing was not well reflected.

So given that BSV fork allowed 100kb op return and it was soon after used for relaying CSAM, how is that not gonna affect bitcoin and how is that not an opportunity for governments to go after node runners and generally discredit bitcoin on that basis to prevent more mainstream adoption of node runners?

also, why is it even needed? why wouldnt 80bytes be enough to add some hashes if needed? ...things seemed fine for the last decade or so...

whats the argument core is making for why removing the option for node runners to filter their mempool and blowing up the op return is a good thing?

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jb55 3mo ago 💬 1

only people who don’t understand bitcoin believe this, there’s a reason it was accepted as a PR. because the risk of private mempools forming around economically motivated and widely used transactions is a way bigger issue for decentralization. As bitcoin stewards the best option is to not fight the market until there’s a more serious fix, which is looking increasingly impossible.

serapath【ツ】☮ 3mo ago 💬 2

here is the argument in video form

https://youtu.be/eVf0rmnVqPY?si=DXswr6T1AUMnKA6V

there are rwasons for this PR, i am sure - but are they really what you claim or thino they are?

if this is supposed to prevent pool centralization, at the very least - given that this is such a contenious issue, we should be able to read up about the exqct reasoning - so far i havent come across that.

serapath【ツ】☮ 3mo ago 💬 1

on the contrary.

as with BSV adding 100k op return and being filled with CSAM after, means...

...anyone running a node might get prosecuted for it and media will point at bitcoin being csam relay reducing the motivation of ppl to run nodes. The big ones will do it though and have the capacity to filter out unwanted content - causing massive centralization.

why do you think this wouldnt happen?

and how would you think the PR would help with decentralization?

Keysa - Simplest Bitcoin Edu 3mo ago 💬 1

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serapath【ツ】☮ 3mo ago

he cant answer, because he already shared in other notes that he trusts and beliefs into bitcoin core devs, which is why he defends them without an actual understanding of what core30 does and how it achieves it. 🤷‍♀️