There would still be debt. You could still take out loans. The goal would be to provide so much value with a new product that you make enough to cover your debt OR a company that figured out a way to reduce the cost of a product could borrow to start up and undercut the competition, therefore, capturing all that value to pay back to the lender.

Lending, borrowing, paying off, and defaulting all existed before the current system. To take Jeff's argument, people are so ingrained in this system and the wacky numbers that it's hard to see the other system.

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