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I see constant talk about how Bitcoin is the way of the future, how it's the answer, the solution to the corrupt and mismanaged fiat system, a revolution, a way to put the power back in the hands of the people, digital capital, how it has so much utility, how it is the perfect money...

But I never

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see anyone talking about how we'll actually value it in a future where it has achieved the goal that everyone idolizes. Why? Why does it feel like there's no true long-term plan?

Lots of people say "don't value your Bitcoin in fiat", but they just stop there. They don't even bother with trying to extend that thought. I feel like this is a mistake to not take it further.

Imagine a future where Bitcoin has become our new primary store of value and we no longer value Bitcoin in fiat. How will we value it at that point? What will one BTC be representative of?

How will we determine this new system of value? How will we arrive at a consensus for it? Will this somehow naturally and organically grow out of the decentralized nature as the system becomes more and more widespread and adopted and used, similar to the dynamics involved in the emergence of the first currencies? Or will there need to be some form of committee formed to make a decision about how we value BTC? Will governments play a role in this?

All the talk of "0.1 BTC is all you need" and "whole coiners" is all purely based on fiat, and doesn't address anything about the long term future of Bitcoin.

I was wondering if people can tell me if any thought is actually being put towards this. I'd like to read about any progress towards this, or about thought experiments for it, or see videos or listen to podcasts that discuss it. So any kind of recommendation of reading materials or other information would be greatly welcome.

Memes and pithy hype quotes aren't going to do shit for us. If this truly is a revolution, we need plans, and we need to ask the hard questions and deal with the tough discussions and start to think about the goal we all dream of actually being realized. Memes and parroting "stack sats" are the lowest of the low hanging fruit.

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There will have to be a whole new period of price discovery for everything based on a lack of theft through currency devaluation. It won’t be neat and tidy. And I will be long dead.

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Your last statement is interesting... why do you think that's the case? What's your speculation on the timeline for this happening? I said in another comment that I hope I live long enough to see it, because I genuinely have no idea how the timeline might play out. Things seem to be changing so rapidly now.

I’m totally guessing, but it looks like there’s a global conflict coming up and an even bigger totalitarian push with very unsettled times in the intervening years. I’m thinking 3 decades minimum. Easy self custody, and layer 2’s and 3’s have a long way to go before they are useable and secureable by people with limited tech skills. I think part of the reason we have banks is because a great majority of people aren’t equipped to handle the responsibility of being their own bank. The security part especially.

This all makes perfect sense to me and I agree with you on how it seems apparent that some kind of large conflict is looming.

And yes, absolutely, we're nowhere close to having the average non-tech savvy person being able to have easy, secure access to self custody and use it in a way that they don't have to first dedicate time and focused effort to studying and understanding it.