I also find the knots guys to be a little immature.

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I have found them to be above board, the others clearly in the pockets if VC cash.

Shitcoin mechanic etc. have good points, but during the debates it seems like they were immature about certain things, as if they didn't like change that much.

Idk just came off that way, obviously Todd is a public speaker too so maybe it's that

10% of Node Runners switched to Knots. That indicates it's a controversial change and the Core team haven't acknowledged that still. The captured/immature side is on the Core Team.