Once again, I can’t disagree, but if a semi automatic with spare mags is an urban necessity, why not 10mm or at least .357 Sig? When it comes to adequate penetration, proper expansion, and bone mass is concerned, 9mm doesn’t cut it. A decent layer of visceral fat stops a hollow point 9mm as effectively as body armor. Obesity rates in America again? Fifty percent at least? You wouldn’t hunt a 200 pound puma with your 9mm, are humans not dangerous game in these circumstances?