I would engage in debate if there was anything left to say. the debate is done and people have taken their sides. it's not my job do the work of thinking for other people.

If you don't believe me or don't get it, I don't have time to try to convince you, sorry.

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Fair enough. Nobody wants you to think for them anyway. I don’t like the “yall are being manipulated” position. Some of us think for ourselves and disagree. And that’s ok. We might all see you as a bunch of core sycophants. But I’d rather presume that you’ve thought about it and came to your own conclusions. Even if it’s flawed