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Andreas Antonopoulos is why I’m here.

His 2013 and 2014 talks didn’t just orange-pill me - they convinced me to spend my life working on Bitcoin. I read his books. I went deep because he went deep.

Today, he supports spam on Bitcoin.

I didn't know about his 2018 'Mastering Ethereum' book until today.

Until today, he was still a hero.

Andreas taught me that Bitcoin works because YOU can run a node and decide what goes in it.

Now he’s backing something that is making this hard.

The lesson he taught me, verify everything, truly means verify everything. Even him.

The people who bring you into Bitcoin aren’t Bitcoin. The protocol is.

And the protocol doesn’t care about your heroes.

Maybe I won’t kill my hero today, but I’ll learn from him twice…

When he’s right, and when he’s wrong.

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jaquesbody 1mo ago

Great honesty and reflection. Everything and everyone is fallible, this is how we make progress.

Felipe 1mo ago

thanks!

yes totally. not marrying ideas...

Hanshan 1mo ago

nerds are gonna nerd

what wrong with being interested on ETH?

Felipe 1mo ago

it's governed by people.

people how repeatedly shown they can't be trusted to guard other people's money.

only the laws of nature can do that... and math.

Hanshan 1mo ago

so its bad to be interested in stuff that people govern.

got it.

Felipe 1mo ago

it's bad for him to say that spam belongs on bitcoin. did you read the post?

Hanshan 1mo ago 💬 1

that wasn't what we were talking about?

and also

when did AA say "spam belongs on Bitcoin"?

Felipe 1mo ago

When he said one persons spam is another persons content

Hanshan 1mo ago

which is objectively true.

large communities can't agree on the definition of "spam"

its always been this way.

Felipe 1mo ago

yeah email service providers just gave up on filtering spam, didn't they?

Hanshan 1mo ago

email service providers are centralized and a trusted 3rd party,

and they often filter out email that people actually want to see and sometimes let the spam through.

exactly what point do you want to make here?

Felipe 1mo ago

that we ought to filter out as much as we can to keep bitcoin money. but i know it's not as b&w as that.

Hanshan 1mo ago

I basically agree but lets look at it:

So we have a bunch of trusted third parties that issue spam filters that people apply to their mempools. there's no standard everybody just uses the one that they like.

But none of that matters at all, the only thing that really matters is what transaction the miners are looking at and they're using no filters at all because they want to get the transactions with the highest fees.

So you have a bunch of subgroups that Consciously avoid seeing particular transactions out of idealism. Meanwhile the miners just mine whatever will keep them competitive with the other miners.

See what I mean?

Felipe 1mo ago

Miners don't decide what transactions go in blocks.

You need to read The Blocksize Wars by Jonathan Bier.

Hanshan 1mo ago 💬 1

read it bro

i give up, who decides what txs go in blocks 😂

Felipe 3w ago

What economic incentive do I have to relay your spam?

Hanshan 3w ago

answer my question first.

Felipe 3w ago