And this is how you find the people who truly do not get the revolution and what it was intended for.

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lol

the last 3 years just constantly moving the LN goalposts

Make an actual argument instead of ad hominem

I'll bite: this stuff wasn't invented so that we could create settlement layers between big players and custodial solutions for us plebs.

People that talk like this aren't after peer to peer digital cash. They just want the big boys to have to buy their bags so they can get rich. Well you can't be rich in chains, it's a gilded cage.

Custodial banking and swift. That's what's being cheered on. Is that what you want? That's not what I want.

I love heavy bags as much as the next guy, but indeed, the whole point was peer to peer digital cash.

Custodial bitcoin IOUs is not my idea of peer to peer. That might be useful for something else, but not for this.

Well, anyway. It's easy to see what works as peer to peer digital cash: authoritarian states ban it reliably.