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We need to hear the details of the proposal. If the proof of purchase token could be proven to be owned by a ZK proof but have no link to your on chain wallet, it could very well maintain the same OPSEC level as it currently does. It does broaden the attack surface though.

As long as they don't force the monetization model to all servers, users will be able to still use community run servers like those ran by the OPSEC Bible team http://nowherejezfoltodf4jiyl6r56jnzintap5vyjlia7fkirfsnfizflqd.onion/simplex-servers.html or your own self hosted servers. This is best case use anyway so for all those OPSEC maximalists, this is already the use case for SimpleX

Also how on Earth are you going to lob these criticisms at this vague proposal and them propose we use Session when session is likely their inspiration for an EVM smart contract monetized messenger network https://token.getsession.org/

Did you not realize Session has an EVM token too? Also the reason Session and likely SimpleX cant use Monero is because it can't do micropayments and can't be programmed on chain. This is good for Monero, don't get me wrong, I would hate for Monero to fall like Bitcoin by trying to be everything and achieving nothing.

LiberLion 2mo ago

Is it about the token? No

Is it about them not wanting to use Monero? No.

It's about who the investors are and how they talk about complying with the rules.

It's about understanding who's behind it all. They've recently received a massive investment from this parasitic globalist elite. Did you read my old post carefully?

We need to look beyond the obvious; we need to understand what's being left unsaid but is actually happening.

You need to read all three layers of information.

Connect the dots you see.

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Daedalus 2mo ago

Yeah I agree VC is always worthy of skepticism, but until we have evidence that the source code or general anonymity model of SimpleX is compromised we shouldn't arbitrarily shy away. Because of this VC investment, we certainly should be more careful though.

Daedalus 2mo ago

VC is Venture Capital I should have mentioned that just in case.

ede3d957... 2mo ago

The thing is. We are currently creating SimpleX network effect and I want to stop early before bringing all my contacts to SimpleX.

I am sure there is a chance to make this right for Evgeny. But how he talks about KYC (as if money would not be free speech) shows his misunderstanding or his true colors or its his backers doing the communication.

Everything worries me.

Daedalus 2mo ago

Yeah it's not great, that last tweet is quite damning for him. I'm trying to keep an open mind but it seems he wants to steer it towards a permissioned, KYC direction. I was always wary of their initial funding model but it may seem like now it's coming to light their true plans.

DystopiaHater 2mo ago

VC money is concerning because at the end they want some form of return and this token idea is one of them to get income both for dev work and the investors. investements are only for ROIs. as long as everything is developed in the open and they freely allow self hosting without any hidden restriction like Minio did recently. it could work

Daedalus 2mo ago

Certainly so, VC is the antithesis of freedom tech and a true FOSS model.