To me it seemed like Rogan invited him to get a comedic episode, but I think Howard "played him" in a sense. I think Howard took full advantage of being on Rogan's show to preach his truths. It may come in the form of science, pseudoscience, religion, or politics, but at the end of the day he is free to speak his mind. I respect his ability to make Joe Rogan stop talking. I enjoyed watching Joe slither into his seat and watch a grown man speak his mind. But his questions and commentary at the end were respectable enough. I think Rogan was actually surprised and interested. Perhaps it's all show, in any case, I don't contribute to either of them financially and I don't follow either persona.