Ideas that shouldn’t break Nostr but might make trolls easier to avoid:

A button to mute all replies in a thread *unless you follow them* that way when a thread draws trolls you can just mute everyone you don’t follow.

Follows only mode: can be enabled when someone is being harassed, automatically discards all posts/replies from people not in your follow list. Would be a temporary measure.

Mute words need to become a universal feature of Nostr clients.

Web of trust: What if you could adjust a setting to only see people a certain number of degrees of separation from your follow list, on any feed - like period.

I’m just a stupid purple cat. Someone smarter could probably do better.

Does your client support one of these things? Shill it to me.

#grownostr #nostr #relays #clients #anotherfucktard

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#amethyst supports mute words and I use it constantly, specially when a new retarded viral meme word comes up.

I agree with the general sense of what you just said. Clients should try less to be twitter clones. And I don't meam UI-wise but UX wise.

Nostr protocol provides so much freedom to experiment with new fresh trust designs and I feel that is being wasted on just copying web2 popular features.

I agree. And there are opportunities to do things on the client end while preserving dumb relays and user control/choice which are not possible or at least much harder in a traditional api.

amethyst actually has so many features in place.

you can set notifications to Follows rather than global also

I reckon that relays should be removed from clients completely.

A dedicated relay app on your device that can concentrate on filtering, retrieval and publishing will do a better job than trying to squeeze all that into the UI. That work doesn't need to be done by the UI at all.

You can then get more complex filtering and user control, and build tor into a dedicated app. It can become the gateway to nostr that all your nostr clients use. You can then build a trust network of relay apps that can share blacklist, whitelist, keyword lists, etc. Getting your UI client to do that is just too much to ask.

Then, no matter which client you use on your computer or phone, you have it use your local relay gateway app.

Client devs can concentrate on working on the UI. Relay devs concentrate on relaying, spam and filtering.

That is an approach to it from the opposite direction. I don’t object to smarter relays but the sentiment here seems to be pretty against it.

I’m not sure about proxy relays though. I don’t see many people being able to run them, and not all phone OS’s support true multitasking.

I should point out that your personal relay app isn't really a relay, it's just a filter between relays and your client that reads from, and publishers too whatever relays you set it up to use.

It doesn't act as a relay, it's a personal proxy to relays that you can apply your own personal filters too.

For me a must-have is "hide reposts" to many people I find interesting repost 24/7 opinions of people I did not want to read

Agree.

I sometimes set notifications to Following, instead of Global, in #Nostrudel and #Coracle has a WoT ranking. Wish I could do the same for replies, sometimes, especially when a post goes viral and attracts trolls.

Or being able to mute a single thread.

Using inbox to control who can DM and reply would also be useful.

the muting implementations on most clients leaves a lot to be desired, i quit having a mute list recently because most of the most frequent ones i encountered in replies to other people's mossages stopped being so fucking irritating that idc anymore and don't want to click unhide all the time

but if the things actually worked and pruned off threads properly how you should expect i wouldn't have come to this, and mute lists are very easy to implement too, but idk, maybe i've spent too long in here, doesn't really seem like it's very often i need help ... usually just some asshole posting gay porn photos that's about it, they do it once and then i never see them again