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You'd be surprised how practically possible it is to live without bank accounts in certain parts of Latin America (and not only), if you're pragmatic about it. Bitrefill, debit cards you can charge, tons of exchange places that accept both bitcoin and (much much more) usdt, and most important of all: countries where cash transactions remain the norm. A huge reason it seems so bad in much of Europe is because cash is slowly being softbanned.

Zaploop 3mo ago

Sure, but then you force a person to flee their country. You impact lives, families… not as easy at it seems. We cannot settle on the status quo. We need to keep fighting. This is not enough.

Real world experience also in countries like El Salvador shows that living on a bitcoin standard is still a dream.

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waxwing 3mo ago

I've lived in El Salvador for 3 years, mostly on bitcoin. It's not just a dream. To me the actual unrealistic thing is to try to push bitcoin adoption in jurisdictions where there is very little motivation. You have to "read the room", so to speak.

Zaploop 3mo ago

Also accepting the status quo is risky. What if the IMF crushes down on El Salvador (like they are doing apparently). I do not want to live a life escaping these guys jumping from country to country. We need to stand up and fight everywhere in the world for adoption. They need to fear us not viceversa.

waxwing 3mo ago

Right, there's no total solution in jumping jurisdictions. It can't work for more than a small minority. I'm more just saying that in some scenarios, you can't expect much in terms of adoption at the level of everyday life. Progress tends to occur at the edges.

Zaploop 3mo ago

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