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If you are concerned about metadata, run your own server, p2p won't help you here because simply put: you still need a hosted highly available homeserver, otherwise the UX and reliability will be unacceptable to most people.

Anyways, this is overstated and exaggerated a lot, people leak metadata to their ISP and their favorite cafe's wifi router all the time.

If anything that can be done it will be added to Matrix, in the meantime, it is the best there is.
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web2-enjoyer 2y ago

IM metadata hasn’t been leaked to network operators ever since the wide adoption of HTTPS.

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Nuh 2y ago

Sir routers can see what IPs you are visiting, regardless of Https, so unless you are using Tor you are leaking metadata, even a VPN is just changing who you are leaking to.

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web2-enjoyer 2y ago

Sorry, I should’ve phrased that differently…

Thanks to HTTPS, metadata leaks don’t happen with:

- centralized IM

- onion routed IM

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Nuh 2y ago

If you make VoIP chat using webrtc you are leaking your IP to your contact, even in Signal, hell, you are leaking your IP to signal server all the time, it is all tradeoffs.

There is no such thing as perfect privacy.