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Almost all olympic level athletes are using PEDs. The sprinters need more muscle so they weight train like mad and use the drugs that help them gain quick twitch muscle. The marathon guys don’t weight train and use different PEDs (EPO or the like) and focus on maintain slow twitch muscle, which is lower volume.

You’re also not taking into account that people with certain aptitudes and body types get funneled into their best respective sports.

That marathon runner could never look like the sprinter and very unlikely the sprinter could never look like the marathon runner. Baseline is a factor.

A fat adapted person literally won’t be fat because their body uses the correct amount of fat as its primary source of energy.

All these exogenous glucose clowns including endurance athletes eat sugar goops and pastes during their events. They’re not using muscle as a fuel source during events lol that’s full starvation.

Endurance athletes have less muscle mass because it’s the optimal state for endurance athletes, less muscle to oxygenate and predominantly slow twitch muscle fibers which are smaller in diameter.

MAHDOOD 5mo ago

Idk about most Olympic athletes using drugs. But even if that were true, the effects of those drugs would only show a difference in the top athletes. Sprinters in general are built similarly.

And you’re right about aptitudes and body types. But it’s not clear whether those body types are shaped by the activity or if the body type gravitates to that activity. Probably a little of both.

Let’s say that a fat person becomes fat adapted. Why can’t he just run endlessly until his fat is gone? How does he run out of energy with those massive tits and love handles?

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BTC_P2P 5mo ago

Fat people who take the time and are disciplined enough to get fat adapted do lose incredible amounts of weight and get to a healthy weight rapidly. There are literally hundreds of thousands of people who have told their stories online who have discovered this and gone through the metamorphosis. It’s pretty wild. It can’t happen over a day but it does happy quite quickly.

MAHDOOD 5mo ago

You’re not answering my question. Why can’t a fat adapted obese person run until his fat is gone? If fat is burned before muscle, then he should have plenty of energy to run without ever needing to burn protein.

BottleTeams 5mo ago

Most really obese people have very small muscular frames underneath. The muscles are extremely atrophied because they don't get utilized in a sedentary lifestyle.

MAHDOOD 5mo ago

But they’re still capable of running. Likely at a slower pace but they can do it. And they have a bunch of fat they can use to continuously refuel those muscles. If fat was such an efficient energy source, then fat people could do physical activities for longer than fit people can because fit people have less fat. You don’t make sense and I’m convinced you don’t know what you’re talking about.

BTC_P2P 5mo ago

I already answered you. Becoming adequately fat adapted takes a long time, up to two years. In that time, the person become fat adapted loses all unnecessary fat.

So a properly fat adapted person cannot be fat.

MAHDOOD 5mo ago

This is my understanding of being fat adapted. Never heard what you’re saying before. At what point does someone become fat adapted? What percentage of body fat? Because you can’t get rid of all the fat on your body. Your claim doesn’t make sense.

BTC_P2P 5mo ago

I said all necessary fat. You won’t see a person who has been strict carnivore for 2 years still being fat. They will have body fat, but be a normal weight. The body will reach an optimum.

Google AI is pretty retarded. I’ve learned about these things listening to doctors and physiologists speak for many hours.

Becoming fat adapted is a process. The body has to learn how to harvest energy from fat and create its own glucose / glycogen. At the beginning of the transition, the body is very bad at it. But if the change in fuel sources persists, the body has to figure it out. And it takes a long time to reach full efficiency.

MAHDOOD 5mo ago

If the body has no more glucose/carbs for energy then it switches to fat for energy. It doesn’t take two years to become efficient at that.

Agree to disagree here.

BTC_P2P 5mo ago

A person who isn’t fat adapted just sitting on the couch on a regular day will essentially burn zero fat. In a starvation scenario they would, yes. But people who aren’t fat adapted struggle terribly in starvation because their bodies are not good at converting fat to energy.

I’ve been watching that show I Shouldn’t be Alive a lot and most episodes the people who survived go many days or sometimes multiple weeks without food. None of them are fat adapted so they get very weak quickly and struggle to do that fat to glucose/glycogen conversion efficiently.

Properly fat adapted people can fast easily for many days with no energy issues. The difference is poor fat adaption vs proper fat adaptation.

It’s like a 2% efficiency vs 99%.