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Transcript of the Samourai Wallet devs responding to judge Cote asking for them to describe what they did in their own words during the plea agreement hearing.

The moment during the Samourai Wallet plea agreement hearing when judge Cote confuses the 1956 money laundering charge & 1960 unlicensed money transmitting charge, then nonchalantly brushes it off as "much the same thing" ☠️

Basically, prosecutors just need to establish the facts of the matter: the devs built a wallet, a hacker used the wallet to obscure the source of criminally derived coins, and the devs had knowledge of this. Package that all up as a conspiracy to operate an unlicensed money transmitting business charge & if the defendants plead guilty (even a false confession) then the judge is spared from any critical thinking because she can just take the prosecutor's allegations as true.

None of that proves the prosecutor's interpretation of the law is correct, that would require a trial which was avoided here and anyone with half a brain in this space can clearly understand the defendants did not in fact transfer funds on behalf of the public as it was a non-custodial wallet and therefore could not be considered a money transmitting business. Hence the wording of the defendants' statements.

But for all intents & purposes of the plea agreement, the only issue here is whether or not there is evidence (even one example) that supports the allegation that the defendants are pleading guilty to. A hacker who used Samourai Wallet in this case:

Lots of trials are show trials. I expected nothing less. This is our generations moment to show code is free speech. This isn’t the first time math or code were outlawed.

I feel for the devs, but in the end it makes the tools stronger. Whirlpool implementations exist now maintained by anons, hosted on tor. People were regarded for thinking they could do otherwise.

I’ll never admit to running a Lightning node. If I did, it would only be on tor and i2p, with my own node. Anyone doing differently is living in la la land. Hope y’all fly under the radar.

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they r NOT plain DEVs they kept % profit as "service FEE" which is in $ million of fiat

Did they force people to use it?

Do you work entirely for free?

I’m not sure what your point is.

they were taking commission for service - that all prosecutors need to prove - ur point my point useless

ur Q are useless need not be answered