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ok, so the assumption i took about why this was being shared was that there was something within what she was saying that we could do something about. like a tipping point kind of situation, or, that somewhere inside this quote implied an action towards remediation. as in: well oh, what if we made distinction between fact & fiction again. or between true & false. as if there once was something, a state of being, now lost, that could be returned to.

so that's what i meant by tiger out of their enclosure. as in, we are already at a mid-mountain avalanche presupposing there even ~was~ an actual demarcation line where would would place a 'before'

the images are from a vox convo i thought was nice, so i also included that

source: https://www.vox.com/vox-conversations-podcast/23048597/vox-conversations-hannah-arendt-totalitarianism-the-philosophers

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nobody 1y ago

i think to a certain extent now, 73 years after she wrote this, we are simply so far downstream as to almost be in another universe. like over the event horizon into another world. especially w/ the advent of ai, proving fact/fiction & proving true/false is more nebulous than ever before.

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nobody 1y ago

re: the printing press, it's expansive but i prefer not to treat it seriously atm, because i was saying it in a more offhand way at the time. like just being playful.

so, while there are multitudes, for the purposes of rn: that's more of a protestant dig & a joke i was having w/ myself like 'wow she's so catholic she doesnt even believe in the printing press'

which ...

i mean no.

but maybe yes.

& yet certainly not.

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nobody 1y ago

a much more concise way of saying all this re: hannah

is that hannah, to me, was speaking at a time when "the apocalypse is here, just not evenly distributed" really would of been a dawning prescient statement re: the west, if she meant there was no turning this around & simply that the water level had now risen high enough

what we are seeing now if that it is so high, it is touching the chosen few, the privileged ones, the born very lucky for whom all of this was allegedly for

as in, if so much of the civilization project was about immense cost & murder for the dream of a literate middle class population w/ social mobility inside a functional democracy whose best & brightest could take us to the stars

yea idk about that

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nobody 1y ago

like nasa's future astronauts are currently on prozac at 9 yrs old struggling to cope